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  • Magpie
    Sergeant
    • Feb 2008
    • 625

    #1

    New Ripper book.

    Looks like R. Michael Gordon has a new Ripper book due out at the end of the month:

    “Sans arme, sans violence et sans haine”
  • Celesta
    Chief Inspector
    • Feb 2008
    • 1625

    #2
    Klosowski? Has to be.
    "What our ancestors would really be thinking, if they were alive today, is: "Why is it so dark in here?"" From Pyramids by Sir Terry Pratchett, a British National Treasure.

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    • Mike Covell
      Superintendent
      • Feb 2008
      • 2957

      #3
      Its listed at £25.00 on the UK Amazon site.
      Regards Mike

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      • Dan Norder
        Sergeant
        • Feb 2008
        • 852

        #4
        I'm not sure if it's a new book or one of his previous three books about Klosowski updated and retitled.

        Dan Norder
        Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
        Web site: www.RipperNotes.com - Email: dannorder@gmail.com

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        • Mike Covell
          Superintendent
          • Feb 2008
          • 2957

          #5
          Originally posted by Dan Norder View Post
          I'm not sure if it's a new book or one of his previous three books about Klosowski updated and retitled.
          That would make sense, especially when the cover price is so high. I have none of his books though, so might give this one a go.
          Regards Mike

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          • Magpie
            Sergeant
            • Feb 2008
            • 625

            #6
            Originally posted by Dan Norder View Post
            I'm not sure if it's a new book or one of his previous three books about Klosowski updated and retitled.
            There's a frustrating lack of detail

            If it's a reprint, I wish Amazon would say so.
            “Sans arme, sans violence et sans haine”

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            • Bob Hinton
              Inactive
              • Feb 2008
              • 654

              #7
              Could it be?

              Neil Cream? I think he poisoned his victims as well.

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              • Celesta
                Chief Inspector
                • Feb 2008
                • 1625

                #8
                You'd think they'd put a little abstract, wouldn't you?
                "What our ancestors would really be thinking, if they were alive today, is: "Why is it so dark in here?"" From Pyramids by Sir Terry Pratchett, a British National Treasure.

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                • Mike Covell
                  Superintendent
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2957

                  #9
                  In Mike we Trust

                  Considered a primary suspect in the unsolved Jack the Ripper murders, Polish-born Severino Antoniovich Klosowski also gained considerable notoriety as "The Borough Poisoner of Southwark" in the late 1800s. Within a span of five years, Klosowski took on three women as his wives and lethally poisoned each woman with deadly doses of antimony.This work closely examines Klosowski's murders of Mary Spink, Elizabeth "Bessie" Taylor, and Maud Marsh, complete with extensive accounts of the individual crimes, the accompanying investigations, and Klosowski's conviction and execution. The final chapter examines intense police and media speculation that Klosowski may also have been the unidentified serial killer Jack the Ripper, citing period news articles and more recent developments in the notorious case. One appendix provides a detailed timeline of Klosowski's "poison period" from 1892 to 1903.

                  ISBN 0786433272 Publication date 01 Mar 2008
                  ISBN13 9780786433278
                  (What's this?) Library of Congress HV
                  Publisher McFarland & Company Volumes 1
                  Imprint MCFARLAND & CO INC Published in Jefferson, NC
                  Format Paperback Academic level G

                  Trading since 1879, Blackwell of Oxford is the largest academic and specialist bookseller in the UK. Fast dispatch, carefully packaged, worldwide delivery.
                  Regards Mike

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                  • Wolf Vanderlinden
                    Sergeant
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 547

                    #10
                    The book is new and not a reprint of one of R. Michael's earlier books.

                    In the past he has looked at Klosowski/Chapman as Jack the Ripper (Alias Jack the Ripper, Beyond the Usual Whitechapel Suspects, McFarland, 2001); Klosowski/Chapman as the Torso Murderer (The Thames Torso Murders of Victorian London, McFarland, 2002) and Klosowski/Chapman as the murderer of four women in the US between 1891 and 1892 (The American Murders of Jack the Ripper, Praeger, 2003).

                    This is the first work by Gordon which actually looks at the murders which it has been proven that Klosowski/Chapman DID commit. You knew it had to happen one of these days.

                    Wolf.

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                    • Sam Flynn
                      Casebook Supporter
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 13322

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post
                      Neil Cream? I think he poisoned his victims as well.
                      Perhaps he's proposing a conspiracy of both poisoners? "Cream of Tartar", anyone?
                      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                      • Sam Flynn
                        Casebook Supporter
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 13322

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wolf Vanderlinden View Post
                        This is the first work by Gordon which actually looks at the murders which it has been proven that Klosowski/Chapman DID commit. You knew it had to happen one of these days.
                        If only he'd called it "The Poison Murders of Severin Klosowski", or "The Borough Poisoner" I might have been tempted to buy it. We could do with a good, dispassionate account of Chapman's murders. As it is, whilst I can understand the marketing slant, the "Jack the Ripper" bit in the title puts me right off. Whilst he writes very well, I was none too impressed with the "foregone conclusion" approach taken by Gordon in his earlier effort, "Alias Jack the Ripper..."

                        I'll stick with HL Adam until something better comes along.
                        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                        • Tom_Wescott
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6996

                          #13
                          I second the words of the amazing Sam Flynn. This is Gordon's fourth 'Ripper Book'. In 'Alias, JTR' he accuses Chapman of the Ripper killings; in 'The American Murders of JTR' he accuses him of killing all the whores in America; in 'The Torso Murders of Victorian London' he accuses Chapman of the Torso killings. The next question Gordon will be asking himself is 'Where was Chapman on the morning of November 22nd, 1963?'

                          Yours truly,

                          Tom Wescott

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                          • Magpie
                            Sergeant
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 625

                            #14
                            Thanks for the info.

                            I think I'll pass, unless I can find a remaindered copy.
                            “Sans arme, sans violence et sans haine”

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                            • Celesta
                              Chief Inspector
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1625

                              #15
                              Sam, Tom, Wolf, et al,

                              He's running out of murders or combinations of murders?
                              "What our ancestors would really be thinking, if they were alive today, is: "Why is it so dark in here?"" From Pyramids by Sir Terry Pratchett, a British National Treasure.

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