THE JACK THE RIPPER LOCATION PHOTOGRAPHS : Dutfield's Yard and the Whitby Collection

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  • Ally
    WWotW
    • Feb 2008
    • 2554

    #136
    I don't think it's that he dislikes having others views stated in the same vein he placed his own. I think he dislikes the fact that people are telling him that because Phil has the right to do with the photo what he wishes, his valid complaints are somehow the equivalent of sh*t stirring merely for the sake of commotion causing or somehow ungrateful because Philip wasn't required to share his find. Phil wasn't required to share his find, but once he chose to do so, the manner in which he chose to present it is relevant, especially if people paid money to view that find.

    And implying that if you aren't satisfied with a product or feel you have been defrauded, just get your money back and shut up about it, is also barking mad, and probably one you would never subscribe to if not for the fact that you consider Phil a friend.

    If it had been Patricia Cornwell who had done this, and people were crying foul (and somehow I get the feeling a lot more people WOULD be crying foul), I don't think people would have leaped to her defense claiming it was her photo and she could do what she wanted with it and we should all just be grateful she decided to share it with us.

    Let all Oz be agreed;
    I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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    • Roy Corduroy
      Chief Inspector
      • Mar 2008
      • 1654

      #137
      Congratulations on your new book, Phil.

      There is precedent, of course. The enigmatic Providence Place, Stepney photo (click) was presented as a two page spread in Victorian and Edwardian London from old photographs by John Betjeman, 1969. And it worked just fine.

      Roy
      Sink the Bismark

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      • Jenni Shelden
        Detective
        • Feb 2008
        • 448

        #138
        aww you guys are great.

        I havent read the book - but i will do eventually. I think Philip to be a very proficient and entertaining writer and I have only heard good things about the Whitby photos from fellow ripperologists - thus far having missed Philips talks on the subject myself .

        to be fair i know Philip himself has said he was not 100 percent happy with some of how it had been put together - earlier in this very thread but the photo being split across a page - or whatever it was - was probably done in order to make it as large as possible

        simple

        or not i mean its ripperology

        Jenni
        “be just and fear not”

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        • Tom_Wescott
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 7001

          #139
          Originally posted by Cap'n Jack
          I hope, Mark,that future users of this site will see and take note of my spirited challenge of cosy little sects on this site who always agree with one another regardless of the simple facts, or the simple truth.
          Ha ha. I always love how shared opinion must mean a concerted conspiracy to hide some evidence or put forth manufactured evidence. And yeah, when I think of the Casebook, I think of harmonious agreement amongst all.

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott

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          • Stewart P Evans
            Superintendent
            • Apr 2008
            • 2994

            #140
            Hi

            Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
            Ha ha. I always love how shared opinion must mean a concerted conspiracy to hide some evidence or put forth manufactured evidence. And yeah, when I think of the Casebook, I think of harmonious agreement amongst all.
            Yours truly,
            Tom Wescott
            Hi Tom, fancy a conspiracy tonight?
            SPE

            Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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            • Tom_Wescott
              Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 7001

              #141
              Originally posted by Stewart P Evans
              Hi Tom, fancy a conspiracy tonight?
              Only if you bring the Dutton Diaries. The secret Cutbush files you showed me last time over Fine Spanish Brandy proved to be rather lackluster. And by the way, I'm told that the upcoming revised edition of A-Z, retitled Jack the Ripper: Anderson - Z, is in no way biased by Begg's personal views.

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott

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              • Cap'n Jack
                *
                • Feb 2008
                • 1497

                #142
                And what I love, Tom, is when some fair-minded, unbiased, independent soul comes along here with some very fair, unbiased and independent criticism based on his or her fair, unbiased and very independent opinion, then you lot rip him to bits... simply because his or her very fair, unbiased and independent critcism is directed against someone you consider a 'friend'.

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                • Tom_Wescott
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 7001

                  #143
                  Hi AP, and that's somehow different than you lying about Philip's integrity and the integrity of his work just to enact a grudge against some imagined cabal that wouldn't let poor AP play in any reindeer games? And I personally don't see that Mr. Winsett was 'ripped to bits."

                  Don't you think that if Philip was trying to push some fake picture of Dutfield's Yard for his own gain, that we would be the first to rip HIM to shreds? I know I'd want to stand in front of that line!

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott

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                  • longliz1888
                    Cadet
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 17

                    #144
                    Well said

                    As stated above, Well said Tom ....

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                    • Tom_Wescott
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 7001

                      #145
                      Thanks, Liz. I'm workin' for ya over here.

                      Yours truly,

                      Tom Wescott

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                      • Stephen Thomas
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1728

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Cap'n Jack View Post
                        I believe this illustration to be closer to the Gizah Pyramid than Berner Street.
                        Hi AP

                        What crap was that statement?

                        Do yourself a favour and pack this in will you. I'm a big fan of your investigative method, ie

                        I shot an arrow in the air
                        It fell to earth I know not where

                        You are, as the phrase goes. in a minority of one as regards what this photo shows. You're spouting bullsh!t and bollocks but as you are so indisputably so smart a chap you must be just acting as a wind up merchant and 'aving a bit of a larf' for personal reasons. What on earth could be your motivation?
                        allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                        • Simon Wood
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5552

                          #147
                          Hi All,

                          Research appears to be demonstrating that AP is not quite so far off the mark as first imagined.

                          Back on this matter as soon as possible.

                          Regards,

                          Simon
                          Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                          • Monty
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5414

                            #148
                            Simon,

                            You mean YOU have evidence ?

                            Monty
                            Monty

                            https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                            Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                            http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                            • Stephen Thomas
                              Chief Inspector
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1728

                              #149
                              Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                              Research appears to be demonstrating that AP is not quite so far off the mark as first imagined.
                              What research would that be, Simon?
                              allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                              • Tom_Wescott
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 7001

                                #150
                                Why is it that when AP gets support for a looney idea, it only comes from Simon or Perry Mason? Any thoughts? This time I think Simon bit off more than he can chew.

                                Yours truly,

                                Tom Wescott

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