A Thread for discussion, reviews and questions on The Complete History of Jack the Ripper, Philip Sugden.
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I have to say it's one of my favorites too."Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas. ~Shoseki
When one has one's hand full of truth it is not always wise to open it. ~French Proverb
Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident. ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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How can you write a complete history of Jack the Ripper when the history is so incomplete?
I, and others, are finding newspaper reports on a daily basis which is sending stuff like the 'Complete History' into the ether as probably the most incomplete history of anything that was ever written.
History is not dead, it did not stop when this book was published, and it still remains very incomplete.
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my award for the best book ive ever read goes to........the autobiography of a supertramp...by the welsh poet w.h.davies....first published 1908,reprinted 1917,1920,1922,1923,1924, 1926 (4 times) 1927(twice) 1928, 1929(twice),,,1930,1931,1932,1933,1936, 1937,1938, 1942, 1943,1944(twivce) 1945,1947,1948,1949,1950, 1952,...1955,1964,1968,1975,1977,......ill stop there .....the preface by george bernard shaw alone is worth the book price, marvelous, a quality of writing i havent seen again,sincere ,descriptive ,heartwarming,tragic true story of the poets life as a tramp in america and britain a century ago......if you aint read it,you dont know what youve missed...and no im not trying to sell anything...the dog eared copy i have i wouldnt swap for druitts diary april-dec1888.
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I had a passing familiarity with the case never researched it much--other than wandering around the area on a few tours--since I had no idea what was "good" and what was "bad." In a discussion a friend highly recommended Sugden's work as "authorative." I am now re-reading it. Searching for background I found this forum.
So . . . any criticism? Anything Sugden got wrong or overlooked?
Thanks,
--J.D.
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Cap'n Jack of the good ship Canis Lupus Anglus makes a good point about the title of the book. I should think that a book titled 'The Complete Jack the Ripper thus far, and as I View the Case' makes more sense. Alternatively, an author using the word 'complete' should have a website with free update downloads as new information, balderdash or not is unearthed. That way the work remains fairly complete.
On second thought 'Jack the Ripper, One Man's Interpretations' may be the most appropriate title. I hate the use of 'complete' and won't buy a book that dares to use it in it's title.
Mikehuh?
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Hi Mike,
Originally posted by The Good Michael View PostI hate the use of 'complete' and won't buy a book that dares to use it in it's title.
Dan Norder
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
Web site: www.RipperNotes.com - Email: dannorder@gmail.com
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Originally posted by Doctor X View PostI had a passing familiarity with the case never researched it much--other than wandering around the area on a few tours--since I had no idea what was "good" and what was "bad." In a discussion a friend highly recommended Sugden's work as "authorative." I am now re-reading it. Searching for background I found this forum.
So . . . any criticism? Anything Sugden got wrong or overlooked?
Thanks,
--J.D.
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"Sugden's pro Abberline stance"
Imagine all the experts, between 1888 and now ,all sitting in a meeting room discussing the case. Who would you tend to listen to the most? I for one. would be most interested in what F.G. Abberline had to say." ON A HOT SUMMERS NITE, WOULD YOU OFFER YOUR THROAT TO WITH THE RED ROSES ?"
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