Patricia Cornwell - Walter Sickert - BOOK 2

[dantheman]

Why, bloke wrote letters sent messages in Yorkshire Ripper, wasn't him though. No reason to rate aletter writer high when there were literally hundreds of letter writers.

(have you read letters from hell).

I do see your point, but any detective interested in catching the killer would want to speak to the author of the letters...right? Ok, so that makes him a POI.

Doubt's I have about WS being Jtr is that he would have stopped killing after MJK and lived out the remainder of his life dying at an old age. That to me is the most damaging when trying to pin the killings on WS. As we all know these type of serial killers (usually) don't stop until their dead or in jail..

-Dan

[Abby Normal]

I've always had a "soft spot" for From Hell, still on the fence but think there's a chance.

Now if it was then in my opinion "Openshaw" must be a good chance.

wasn't it the Openshaw letter the one she had tested and claimed sickerts DNA was found?

[Phil Carter]

Well said, Phil!

I am always writing letters, admittedly not "Dear Boss" and "From Hell" letters . . . but as far as I know I have never killed anyone, except in print. Ha ha.

Cheers

Chris

Hello Chris,

Many thanks ����

Maybe I'm being simplistic in my approach.
Maybe I can see something very simple that many choose to ignore or simply don't want to see.

Anyone writing a book..employing researchers at high rates to enhance the theory that has basically ignored rule no.1 (a letter is not anything but a letter)..is contributing only to one thing.
Keeping a myth going. And the paid researchers are doing exactly the same thing. Scruples? None, it seems. Sorry. I see things very clearly. As long as it makes a bit of money.. why not cash in syndrome.
It is sadly repeated time and time again in this subject.
Enhancing towards the goal of finding an answer has been demoted behind enhancing myths in order to keep the game going.
Sad.
Imho.



Phil

[ChrisGeorge]

It boils down to this.

Proof of being the writer of a letter does not prove the same person being a killer.
If Kosminski, Druitt and Co wrote one of the letters.. it would mean..
They wrote a letter. Thats all.

As long as there is no tangible link to the act of murder.. Which there isn't.. then this isnt even circumstantial evidence.

The craving to find "guilt" must be tempered methinks.


Just my opinion.



Phil

Well said, Phil!

I am always writing letters, admittedly not "Dear Boss" and "From Hell" letters . . . but as far as I know I have never killed anyone, except in print. Ha ha.

Cheers

Chris

[GUT]

Definitely not Case Closed but he should be rated high among POI and maybe even suspects.

-Dan

Why, bloke wrote letters sent messages in Yorkshire Ripper, wasn't him though. No reason to rate aletter writer high when there were literally hundreds of letter writers.

(have you read letters from hell).

[dantheman]

That's as Ma be but it doesn't make "Case Closed".

There are lots who deserve to be POIs they can't all be Jack.

Definitely not Case Closed but he should be rated high among POI and maybe even suspects.

-Dan

[GUT]

I'm a huge crime buff but I don't write letter's to the police claiming to be the killer, especially during on ongoing investigation. Huge red flag if you ask me. It baffling how people blow off the probability that he was sending in letters to the police claiming to be Jack. And those that accept that he sent letters have the attitude of "just because he sent them doesn't make him a suspect, he was just a crime buff". Come on get real, he needs to be taken serious as a suspect. Or at least a person of interest.

-Dan

That's as Ma be but it doesn't make "Case Closed".

There are lots who deserve to be POIs they can't all be Jack.

[dantheman]

Thanks, GUT. Well, I don't think Sickert wrote ALL the letters, but he was enough of a crime buff that he may well have written some of them.

I'm a huge crime buff but I don't write letter's to the police claiming to be the killer, especially during on ongoing investigation. Huge red flag if you ask me. It baffling how people blow off the probability that he was sending in letters to the police claiming to be Jack. And those that accept that he sent letters have the attitude of "just because he sent them doesn't make him a suspect, he was just a crime buff". Come on get real, he needs to be taken serious as a suspect. Or at least a person of interest.

-Dan

[Geddy2112]

Did Sickert own the same brand/type of paper used in the diary?

[Pcdunn]

Time to head to Letters and Communications

I've always had a "soft spot" for From Hell, still on the fence but think there's a chance.

Now if it was then in my opinion "Openshaw" must be a good chance.

I like "From Hell" as well, but haven't given much thought to the Openshaw letter. Think I'll do some reading...

[John G]

All she "established" is that someone with the same mtDNA profile as Sickert wrote one of the Ripper letters. Which sounds good, but then you realise there are hundreds if not thousands of potential matches. And that's assuming the DNA testing was accurate in the first place.

Actually, possibly millions of individuals.

[sleekviper]

Well, it depends. If she is talking about those 24 sheets of rose tinted paper from Belgium, not such a big deal. They were watermarked, and it was just 24 sheets. That was sometime around 1850, and all 24 sheets were made into about 5,000 stamps. If someone collects stamps it is a big deal I guess.

[Pcdunn]

Here's The Telegraph review:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/lif...k-ripper-case/

Thanks for the link, Richard.

I will give her book a try, I think. Sounds as if she has researched answers to some of the objections people had to her first book. The small run of paper is also interesting.

[richardh]

Here's The Telegraph review:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/patricia-cornwell-spent-7-million-solving-jack-ripper-case/

[richardh]

Sounds familiar
The one thing about these 'high profile' and well-funded agenda filled enquiries is that they often conversely help to disprove the chosen subject is the likely culprit. IMO

All she "established" is that someone with the same mtDNA profile as Sickert wrote one of the Ripper letters. Which sounds good, but then you realise there are hundreds if not thousands of potential matches. And that's assuming the DNA testing was accurate in the first place.