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Ripper Street series 3
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think you have hit the nail on the head, when a show is made for international distribution they need to be particularly careful about language or listeners from some parts of the world will not understand a word.G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Hello Caz , Yes I am sure you are right regarding the wider audience malarkey .. but I am sure that the occasional Eliza Doolittle cameo wouldn't do the ratings much harm . My Granddad had me in tow most Sunday mornings down club row & petticoat lane when I was a pup , and I can still remember clearly to this day the colorful language and expressions used by his older pals
I am just a little peeved that the show chooses to paint over these cracks, falsifying history and denying a wide TV audience some genuine insight ... But oh well , it is TV , and I suppose we should be grateful for a decent period drama regardless of the flaws
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Cheers , moonbegger .
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It wasn't so much the accents I had a problem with, but the quaintly old-fashioned dialogue, which at times sounded more Elizabethan than late Victorian.Originally posted by Pcdunn View PostMoonbeggar and Caz, thank you for your responses about dialect (or lack thereof) in "Ripper Street". I thought some characters did have accents, that's how much I know!
Seriously, if everyone spoke authentic Cockney and thieves' cant, no one watching would understand it (at least over here!)
As I said, my grandparents were all Victorian children, and their conversational English as adults really wouldn't have been that different from ours today.
'Tis but a small quibble from me though.
Love,
Caz
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I wholeheartedly agree that it's the quaint Elizabethan dialog that throws a spanner in the works for me , yet the American ( Blake I think ) appears to have a regular American 20th century accent ? An Connecticut yank in the court of King Arthur springs to mindOriginally posted by caz View PostIt wasn't so much the accents I had a problem with, but the quaintly old-fashioned dialogue, which at times sounded more Elizabethan than late Victorian.
As I said, my grandparents were all Victorian children, and their conversational English as adults really wouldn't have been that different from ours today.
'Tis but a small quibble from me though.
Love,
Caz
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I know the language can be a bit annoying at times, but if the story and acting are good I can overlook it... I mean.. let’s face it, no Ancient Romans or German Nazi's had perfect English accents like they do in most films
I just watched the last episode of this series... and I really liked it... this season had its ups and downs.. a few things were just to eh for my taste... like the 2nd last episode...when doing historical drama why do an episode that is so "trendy" .. not that it was a bad show ( well, yeah it was, just didn't hold my interest at all) however the last episode was WOW.. amazing.. I would say 4 of the 8 were incredible, 2 were good 1 was ok and 1 was eh...still.. looking forward to seasons 4 and 5 that were signed!!!
Steadmund Brand"The truth is what is, and what should be is a fantasy. A terrible, terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago."- Lenny Bruce
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Not difficult to see an American hand at work (Amazon?) in series 3.
One scene there, we have Reid & Co. parading down the high street equipped with hand guns & long guns. This is still Whitechapel I assume, not the O.K. Corral?Regards, Jon S.
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Too funny.Originally posted by Wickerman View PostNot difficult to see an American hand at work (Amazon?) in series 3.
One scene there, we have Reid & Co. parading down the high street equipped with hand guns & long guns. This is still Whitechapel I assume, not the O.K. Corral?G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Was that Elizabeth Short whose image was used for Catherine Eddowes on Emund Reida map of Whitechapel?
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thats what i said on an earlier post.... nobody agreed with me!!!! I am not crazy after all!!Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View PostWas that Elizabeth Short whose image was used for Catherine Eddowes on Emund Reida map of Whitechapel?
Thank you
Steadmund Brand"The truth is what is, and what should be is a fantasy. A terrible, terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago."- Lenny Bruce
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Yeah yeah yeah
From our cold dead hands etc.Originally posted by GUT View PostToo funny.
It also bothers me when films are shot in New Orleans & none of the actors has a credible, authentic accent. They mostly sound Bible Belt Southern Standard. Even in HBO"s True Detectives the accents were more East Texas than South Louisiana. The only authentic NOLA accent I've heard on film was Eric Roberts in Heaven's Prisoners. Straight up 9th Ward, where y'at, dawlin'!!From Voltaire writing in Diderot's Encyclopédie:
"One demands of modern historians more details, better ascertained facts, precise dates, , more attention to customs, laws, commerce, agriculture, population."
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You mean this one?Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View PostWas that Elizabeth Short whose image was used for Catherine Eddowes on Emund Reida map of Whitechapel?
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