Death of Sophie Toscan du Plantier

[erobitha]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uD1uSCsbXO4

He uses the alias 'Jack Burton' (including many more) on Twitter and YouTube.

He cannot help himself but interject himself into every online conversation, playing himself as an eternal victim. Absolute narcissistic behaviour.

[MrBarnett]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uD1uSCsbXO4

[MrBarnett]

This rather threw me. Apparently Jim Sheridan believes Bailey is innocent and has been framed.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.t...e-husband/amp/

[erobitha]

I watched the two documentaries and find the suspicions against Bailey credible.

That said, if you're ever bored, you might enjoy the following.

The Pseudoscience of Body Language Explained | by The Rewired Soul | Medium

Thanks RJ.

I certainly don't believe everyone who claims to be a 'body language expert' is actually so. Whilst it is still regarded as pseudo-science by many, it is used in many military and law enforcement circles by professionals who have a wealth of interrogation experience. In the context of interrogation I think the cues being analysed and looked at quite interesting, if not yet fully scientifically-validated. I find at least x3 of 'The Behaviour Panelists' very credible. The English guy seems to be from an entertainment background, whereas the other x3 have many many years of US military and law enforcement interrogation experience.

I think you have to look at the credentials of the analysts and and make your own mind up on the validity of their analysis.

I thought they did a very good piece on Bailey actually.

[rjpalmer]

Every body language expert out there knows he is guilty too.

I watched the two documentaries and find the suspicions against Bailey credible.

That said, if you're ever bored, you might enjoy the following.

The Pseudoscience of Body Language Explained | by The Rewired Soul | Medium

[erobitha]

I finished the book and recommend it highly to anyone. It’s a fascinating case and a well written book. Is he guilty? There’s certainly a lot in favour of his guilt but I’m not 100% convinced. I could put it this way - the odds probably favour his guilt but would I be totally comfortable sending someone to prison for the rest of their lives on this, no I don’t think that I would. I certainly could be giving too much of the benefit of doubt though. Lots of lies told (including a witness against Bailey) lots of things that can be explained 2 ways (nothing new in that of course) which leave me with doubts. If I read it again along with other stuff on the case I might change my mind. Who knows? Erobitha obvious feels that he was guilty and he knows more about the case than I do.

Definitely a book for the shopping list though and it would be interesting to hear other opinions.

I totally understand how some people would be uncomfortable to convict based on the physical evidence available, so I hope that advancements in DNA technology can finally put this to rest once and for all.

I have had dealings with him. I know the type of man he is. I know he did it. He knows he did it.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I finished the book and recommend it highly to anyone. It’s a fascinating case and a well written book. Is he guilty? There’s certainly a lot in favour of his guilt but I’m not 100% convinced. I could put it this way - the odds probably favour his guilt but would I be totally comfortable sending someone to prison for the rest of their lives on this, no I don’t think that I would. I certainly could be giving too much of the benefit of doubt though. Lots of lies told (including a witness against Bailey) lots of things that can be explained 2 ways (nothing new in that of course) which leave me with doubts. If I read it again along with other stuff on the case I might change my mind. Who knows? Erobitha obvious feels that he was guilty and he knows more about the case than I do.

Definitely a book for the shopping list though and it would be interesting to hear other opinions.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I just read that Schull, the village where the murder occurred, is on the Mizen Peninsular.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Let us know what you think, Mike.

Will do Gary

[MrBarnett]

I just received my copy of Murder At Roaringwater by Nick Foster today which I’m hoping to make a start on this evening.

Let us know what you think, Mike.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I just received my copy of Murder At Roaringwater by Nick Foster today which I’m hoping to make a start on this evening.

[erobitha]

just on first perusal i would say he did it. multiple confessions, scratches, getting rid of evidence, insider knowledge.

how did he first become a suspect?

It was a police officer who first raised suspicions based on his behaviour at the crime scene.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-told-why-he-felt-bailey-was-a-suspect-30201357.html

[Abby Normal]

just on first perusal i would say he did it. multiple confessions, scratches, getting rid of evidence, insider knowledge.

how did he first become a suspect?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Hi Herlock,

I have been very into this case since I posted on it a while back.

There is only one real suspect and for a very good reason. Bailey is on Twitter and gives much away about himself. He has been assessed by the behaviour panel who believe is he is a narcissist, and a possible psychopath. I have had personal dealings with him. He thinks he is far smarter than he is. He actively seeks and courts attention. Whenever a story about Sophie is released the following day he is in a rival paper talking about how it all affects him. it has been so long ago now he can easily disassociate himself from that drunken night.

Mairead Farrell is an unreliable witness due to the fact she was having an affair at the time and hence why she did not want to be identified originally. Since then she has changed her story more times than Mike Barrett.

The questions properly unanswered by Bailey are as follows:

- Where exactly where you in the early hours of the morning when your then Girlfriend Jules Thomas said you were no longer in bed? He claims he was writing an article for a deadline. What article, what newspaper and what was the deadline?
- How did you acquire scratches on your head and arms when witnesses saw your head and arms scratch-free right up until the night before the murder? They are liars and have it in for you?
- Why were you buying Happy Shopper bleach on Christmas Eve morning?
- Why did a witness staying in your home over the Christmas period report that you were soaking your coat in the bath?
- How did you know the murdered woman was French when Eddie Cassidy contacted you? Eddie did not know and it was not public knowledge at that stage.
- How often did you go to buy weed from Sophie's immediate neighbour Alfie Lyons?
- How did you know Sophie was not sexually assaulted during her attack? You wrote this is an article where you claimed this, prior to the autopsy report being formally filed.
- Why did you have a bonfire on the studio property on the 26th December, what was so urgent that needed to be burned and destroyed?

I have many more questions. The fact is the Gardai failed to do their jobs correctly at the time. There had not been a murder for hundred years in that area, and the local police were simply not upto to the task of collecting evidence or witness statements correctly. Since then the protocols have changed (thankfully) and it is no longer the exclusive responsibility of the local force to solve murder cases.

I have no doubt he killed Sophie in a drunken rage. She spurned his advances and was probably very forthright with him to get off her property. He most likely took the bottle of wine that was on her doorstep, and walked off with it. Sophie was annoyed this rude man would wake her in the middle of the night and have the audacity to steal from her too. She shouted after him as he went back down the path, he got angry as she caught up with him and he hit her across the head with the bottle. She collapsed. Worried she would come round and identify him he took a huge stone nearby and started to smash in her skull with it. Not content that was enough, he went and got a concrete breeze block from the outhouse beside her home. Walked down to gate and dropped it from a great height onto her skull. That is how she died and that is how he killed her.

Bailey thrives on attention. That is not eccentricity, it's pure narcissistic behaviour. If you were innocent you would volunteer at every opportunity to assist the police in order to clear your name. You would not be waxing lyrical on social media or making schoolboy jokes.

Instead, he has created this nonsensical scenario where the world is out to get him and he is the victim of a police and French intelliogence conspiracy. He even recently compared himself to being like the Jews during the holocaust (he did say actually that).

He wants the world to think he is the victim. I don't engage with him anymore since I realised he liked it.

I would recommend: https://www.crime-analyst.com/50-the...s-ctd-part-11/

Thanks for that Erobitha. Interesting to hear more background on this thanks. I’ve ordered the book by Nick Foster which has had mixed reviews on Amazon but I’ll give it a go. Initial impressions can certainly be wrong so mine might well have been.

[erobitha]

I just finished watching the Sheridan series which is well worth watching and I’ve ordered the latest book on the case. I may be in a minority I’m not convinced that he was guilty. A man goes out in the middle of the night and bludgeons to death a woman that there’s no real evidence that he’d actually know then he goes around telling everyone that he’s done it? Then the only witness admits that the police got her to lie about seeing Bailey?

Yes Bailey is an eccentric and was undoubtedly capable of violence when drunk on spirits but even his partner (who has since split with him) appears to believe 100% in his innocence and she didn’t strike me as a lady who would be intimidated. What happened to the coat they asked? It was on the police evidence list. They took it away and found nothing. Not a single piece of evidence against Bailey. He supposedly had scratches on his hands but he had been cutting down a tree which his wife confirmed and a third person witnessed a recently cut tree. Why did the police take no holograph of these scratches?

Surely there has to be, at the very least, enough of a level of doubt here? To me it smacks a little of Colin Stagg and the Rachel Nickell murder. They made their minds up that the ‘weirdo’ must have been guilty. He might have been guilty of course but I’m not convinced.

Hi Herlock,

I have been very into this case since I posted on it a while back.

There is only one real suspect and for a very good reason. Bailey is on Twitter and gives much away about himself. He has been assessed by the behaviour panel who believe is he is a narcissist, and a possible psychopath. I have had personal dealings with him. He thinks he is far smarter than he is. He actively seeks and courts attention. Whenever a story about Sophie is released the following day he is in a rival paper talking about how it all affects him. it has been so long ago now he can easily disassociate himself from that drunken night.

Mairead Farrell is an unreliable witness due to the fact she was having an affair at the time and hence why she did not want to be identified originally. Since then she has changed her story more times than Mike Barrett.

The questions properly unanswered by Bailey are as follows:

- Where exactly where you in the early hours of the morning when your then Girlfriend Jules Thomas said you were no longer in bed? He claims he was writing an article for a deadline. What article, what newspaper and what was the deadline?
- How did you acquire scratches on your head and arms when witnesses saw your head and arms scratch-free right up until the night before the murder? They are liars and have it in for you?
- Why were you buying Happy Shopper bleach on Christmas Eve morning?
- Why did a witness staying in your home over the Christmas period report that you were soaking your coat in the bath?
- How did you know the murdered woman was French when Eddie Cassidy contacted you? Eddie did not know and it was not public knowledge at that stage.
- How often did you go to buy weed from Sophie's immediate neighbour Alfie Lyons?
- How did you know Sophie was not sexually assaulted during her attack? You wrote this is an article where you claimed this, prior to the autopsy report being formally filed.
- Why did you have a bonfire on the studio property on the 26th December, what was so urgent that needed to be burned and destroyed?

I have many more questions. The fact is the Gardai failed to do their jobs correctly at the time. There had not been a murder for hundred years in that area, and the local police were simply not upto to the task of collecting evidence or witness statements correctly. Since then the protocols have changed (thankfully) and it is no longer the exclusive responsibility of the local force to solve murder cases.

I have no doubt he killed Sophie in a drunken rage. She spurned his advances and was probably very forthright with him to get off her property. He most likely took the bottle of wine that was on her doorstep, and walked off with it. Sophie was annoyed this rude man would wake her in the middle of the night and have the audacity to steal from her too. She shouted after him as he went back down the path, he got angry as she caught up with him and he hit her across the head with the bottle. She collapsed. Worried she would come round and identify him he took a huge stone nearby and started to smash in her skull with it. Not content that was enough, he went and got a concrete breeze block from the outhouse beside her home. Walked down to gate and dropped it from a great height onto her skull. That is how she died and that is how he killed her.

Bailey thrives on attention. That is not eccentricity, it's pure narcissistic behaviour. If you were innocent you would volunteer at every opportunity to assist the police in order to clear your name. You would not be waxing lyrical on social media or making schoolboy jokes.

Instead, he has created this nonsensical scenario where the world is out to get him and he is the victim of a police and French intelliogence conspiracy. He even recently compared himself to being like the Jews during the holocaust (he did say actually that).

He wants the world to think he is the victim. I don't engage with him anymore since I realised he liked it.

I would recommend: https://www.crime-analyst.com/50-the...s-ctd-part-11/