Updated List of Documentaries

[Ozzy]

Here's the program, Smiler With The Knife,...a direct download :

https://www.oldtimeradiodownloads.co...ife-19xx-xx-xx

Nice, I thought, I haven't heard it before.

What I downloaded is a play. It has nothing to do with the Ripper.

If you have the real Smiler With The Knife is there any chance of a copy Howard?

Smiler with the Knife
BBC Home Service Basic, 12 April 1967 21.15
Synopsis
The mystery of Jack the Ripper
Many theories have been advanced as to the identity and motives of Jack the Ripper, whose savage murders terrorised the East End of London in 1888. Compiled from contemporary sources, this programme recounts his activities and the public reaction which caused Queen Victoria to address, strongly worded notes of criticism to her Home Secretary and led to the eventual resignation of the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police.
Written and narrated by Tony van den Bergh
Contributors
Writer/Narrator: Tony van den Bergh
Producer: Robert Pocock

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Howard, below is a BBC Genome link to the page about the play The Smiler With The Knife
It's about a couple who stumble across an organisation with close links with fascist Germany.

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/1622d40d...545bfc8470a6e6

[Howard Brown]

Here's a list of programs on You Tube which I've compiled...over 2,000 programs, quite a few of which are television shows or East End, LVP, or Whitechapel Murder related

https://www.jtrforums.com/forum/ripper-other-crime-media-forum/25420-jack-the-ripper-on-you-tube/page54#post576463

There are other documentaries not mentioned on this thread in the compilation.

[Howard Brown]

Here's the program, Smiler With The Knife,...a direct download :

https://www.oldtimeradiodownloads.co...ife-19xx-xx-xx

[Ozzy]

There's a script for the The Other Victorians show. Only 100 copies printed.

https://www.casebook.org/ripper_medi...ion/raper.html


I know BBC radio have done a few over the years, such as Smiler with the Knife. Details of which are on BBC Genome.

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/78ebc826...d95dee0be8a578

[Yabs]

Another Radio show, this was part of a series called - The Other Victorians.
This episode is based on the Prince Eddy theory. It was broadcast 01/06/72 a year before Barlow & Watt.



THE OTHER VICTORIANS

A ten-part series examining the hidden and darker aspects of Victorian life.

8: Who was Jack the Ripper? bv MICHELL RAPER

Compiled and introduced by MICHELL RAPER with the voices of
BETTY BASKCOMB DOUGLAS BLACKWELL. GERALD CROSS WILLIAM EEDLE. MARTIN FRIEND
OLWEN GRIFFITHS , LESLIE HERITAGE JOHN RUDDOCK , LEWIS STRINGER and MANNING WILSON
The series of gruesome murders committed by an unidentified psychopath in 1888 is perhaps the most notorious crime in British legal history. Among its most sensational features was the persistent rumour that the murderer was a highly placed aristocrat shielded by the police: and recently, and most sensationally of all. that he was the Duke of Clarence. eldest son of the Prince of Wales, later Edward VII , and therefore eventual heir to the English throne. When this unhappy Prince died in 1892 there was a well-orchestrated outpouring of grief: Hope of a people's heart - your promised king - and mine, .wrote Alfred Austin. But could he really have been Jack the Ripper? Producer HALLAM TENNYSON

[C. F. Leon]

I wonder what those theories were that are in the synopsis for the 1945 radio show.
I recognise the editor, Dickson Carr and a couple of actors, Norman Shelley. Laidman Browne.

Looking at the characters. Wasn't Lawson a doctor around the time of the Ripper crimes who thought the Ripper might be a woman.
Langham was a coroner. Bowyer discovered MJK when he went for rent. Could Brown be James Brown. I see a Reid as well but P.F is wrong.

John Dickson Carr (1906 November 30-1977 February 27. He died of lung cancer like sooooo many other writers of the time.) was an American mystery writer, perhaps best known for creating Dr. Gideon Fell. He was authorized by the Doyle family to write a biography of Arthur Conan Doyle ("The Life of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle" (1949)) and published several "Further Adventures of" Sherlock Holmes stories, which were collected as "The Exploits of Sherlock Holmes" (1954). I can not find any other connection to Jack the Ripper, but I haven't conducted a in-depth search.

"Louis" may be Deimshitz. The presence of a "Mrs Louis" would seem to make this more likely. Remember that there was some initial confusion in the newspapers to whether "Louis" was his given name or surname.

[Ozzy]

I wonder what those theories were that are in the synopsis for the 1945 radio show.
I recognise the editor, Dickson Carr and a couple of actors, Norman Shelley. Laidman Browne.

Looking at the characters. Wasn't Lawson a doctor around the time of the Ripper crimes who thought the Ripper might be a woman.
Langham was a coroner. Bowyer discovered MJK when he went for rent. Could Brown be James Brown. I see a Reid as well but P.F is wrong.

[Yabs]

I don’t know if this is of interest but I also saved this radio show as a future search quest.
Originally broadcast on the BBC Home service 17/08/45

[Yabs]

Thanks, Yabs. This is something that I have not heard of before. The genesis of my original listing was the RipperCast episode with Phil Hutchinson & Mike Covell (and JM, of course!) (dated 2008 July 28) and there was no mention of this. (I have not updated the listing in at least 6 years and it came up in the que of Let's Update These Old Files While Under Lockdown.)

Do you have any further information? Title? Length? Content? Was it part of a longer show or something on its own? Any information on who was in it or the Presenter/Narrator? Was there a "Theory"?

Hi C
I did a search a while back on the BBC archives and saved a few titles that I would like to try and seek out one day.
that particular one I posted was the third part of a three part mystery and curiosity series called Nine Days Wonders.
It ran for 45 minutes per episode and had two or three topics per episode.

That’s pretty much all I know I’m afraid.

[C. F. Leon]

I would guess that it has been wiped, but for the record.

Broadcast on BBC tv Monday March 13th 1955

Thanks, Yabs. This is something that I have not heard of before. The genesis of my original listing was the RipperCast episode with Phil Hutchinson & Mike Covell (and JM, of course!) (dated 2008 July 28) and there was no mention of this. (I have not updated the listing in at least 6 years and it came up in the que of Let's Update These Old Files While Under Lockdown.)

Do you have any further information? Title? Length? Content? Was it part of a longer show or something on its own? Any information on who was in it or the Presenter/Narrator? Was there a "Theory"?

[paul g]

Apologies if this is in the above list.
in the U.K was there one with either Angela Ripon or Ester Ranston. In a corner of my mind I’m sure the premise was some sort of vote either by the public, studio audience or panel of experts .
maybe I have this wrong or it is in the above List.
regards

[Yabs]

I would guess that it has been wiped, but for the record.

Broadcast on BBC tv Monday March 13th 1955

[C. F. Leon]

And if you’re mentioning documentaries where only a small portion are Ripper related - the 1965 film ‘Primitive London’ depicts the murder of “Martha Turner” by Jack the Ripper. The segment lasts about 3 minutes.

JM

Thanks for the information, Jonathan. It's always a pleasure to hear from you. I hope that you're well.

I don't intend to include EVERY little thing that mentions JtR: if it's the like of "He's the worst serial killer since Jack the Ripper" and that's IT, well, that's no real use and I'm not going to bother with it. The problem is that people trying to be helpful tell me about a show without giving any helpful information and I have to spend time looking for it and IF I find it (YouTube is currently a Royal Mess for a researcher), then checking it out to get the USEFUL bits. But if there's useful information for a scholar, then I'll include it. The James Mason film is a good example. The Hanbury St. segment is something like 5 minutes out of the total show, but is quite informative and interesting.

[Abby Normal]

I cant beleive fishs doc was six years agao?!? tempus fugit

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

2004 - Rory McGrath. Remember him?

My all time favourite series featuring Jeff Mudgett is missing too, but quite frankly, that's for the best. Sorry Jeff.