Rippercast with Neil Bell -Capturing Jack the Ripper

[GUT]

Technically its not a Jack book GUT,

You have a get out clause. Its a police book, just happened to be used during the Ripper investigation. ;-)

Monty

Thanks Mony I'll have to use that defence, but suspect I'll be over ruled [on the defence not on buying the book].

[Monty]

Technically its not a Jack book GUT,

You have a get out clause. Its a police book, just happened to be used during the Ripper investigation. ;-)

Monty

[GUT]

Yes Jon, that's correct.

The Code was published for all, from judges to the common man and woman on the street.

The Met purchased them in bulk, and issued them to every man in the force, as well as providing copies in every station/section house library. Borough Constabularies did likewise, however there is a record where Gloucestershires Chief Constable bought a set for his constabulary out of his own pockets.

To keep down costs, the Code would have to be returned upon resignation.

The book shall not only shed a Super Trooper on police work of the period, but also provide an insight into Victorian life during the murders. Adam and I are proud to be working with the Met on this. We intend the book to be as close to the original as possible, down to the type and cover. And once we noted Howard Vincent's 1908 will declaration to donate a percentage to the Orphans Fund, we felt it would add to that originality whilst, more importantly, aid a very worthwhile organisation.

Monty

Thanks Monty, so another book I've gotta buy.

Another "Not another Jack the Ripper book" from she.

[Monty]

A reason why republishing Sir Howard Vincent's Police Code 1889 will be such a useful book for us.

Which brings up a question I have for Monty- as a share of the proceeds from the sale of the Police Code will go to, like the original, the orphan's fund, did Met Police officers have to purchase their copies themselves or were they provided to them? And if provided to officers free of charge, this must mean that it was available for the general public to purchase? Who would have purchased such a book in 1889 if I'm correct in thinking they were given free to the bobbies?

JM

Yes Jon, that's correct.

The Code was published for all, from judges to the common man and woman on the street.

The Met purchased them in bulk, and issued them to every man in the force, as well as providing copies in every station/section house library. Borough Constabularies did likewise, however there is a record where Gloucestershires Chief Constable bought a set for his constabulary out of his own pockets.

To keep down costs, the Code would have to be returned upon resignation.

The book shall not only shed a Super Trooper on police work of the period, but also provide an insight into Victorian life during the murders. Adam and I are proud to be working with the Met on this. We intend the book to be as close to the original as possible, down to the type and cover. And once we noted Howard Vincent's 1908 will declaration to donate a percentage to the Orphans Fund, we felt it would add to that originality whilst, more importantly, aid a very worthwhile organisation.

Monty

[GUT]

A reason why republishing Sir Howard Vincent's Police Code 1889 will be such a useful book for us.

Which brings up a question I have for Monty- as a share of the proceeds from the sale of the Police Code will go to, like the original, the orphan's fund, did Met Police officers have to purchase their copies themselves or were they provided to them? And if provided to officers free of charge, this must mean that it was available for the general public to purchase? Who would have purchased such a book in 1889 if I'm correct in thinking they were given free to the bobbies?

JM

I'd been wondering similar, and if they had to buy their own, would many Bobbies do so, or was it compulsory.

[GUT]

Monty can be somewhat unpredictable in his temperament. We prefer to book Neil Bell for the show instead.

JM

Fair enough.

[jmenges]

Monty can be somewhat unpredictable in his temperament. We prefer to book Neil Bell for the show instead.

JM

[GUT]

Who's this Neil Bell bloke why didn't you get Monty to talk about policing, he seems to know a bit about it.

[jmenges]

All kidding aside, Robert's question and Neil's response concerning the procedure involved when a body is found and how even that evolved during the course of these murders was very helpful and one aspect little discussed... let alone understood.

A reason why republishing Sir Howard Vincent's Police Code 1889 will be such a useful book for us.

Which brings up a question I have for Monty- as a share of the proceeds from the sale of the Police Code will go to, like the original, the orphan's fund, did Met Police officers have to purchase their copies themselves or were they provided to them? And if provided to officers free of charge, this must mean that it was available for the general public to purchase? Who would have purchased such a book in 1889 if I'm correct in thinking they were given free to the bobbies?

JM

[Monty]

Goes against the myth of a bumbling, solely re-active police force.

It would have been interesting to see if the four whistle blast system would have worked. However, fortunately, we shall never know.

Monty

[Hunter]

Maybe she was looking for her "damned copy" of the book.:

All kidding aside, Robert's question and Neil's response concerning the procedure involved when a body is found and how even that evolved during the course of these murders was very helpful and one aspect little discussed... let alone understood.

[jmenges]

Ally wandering off without warning and RJM immediately picking up the hosting slack. My favorite moments. So proud of my kids.

JM

[Monty]

They also Tweeted.

Monty

[Hunter]

Enjoyed it. Great questions asked. And some surprisingly new information... like learning that during the WM investigation the Met and City police shared emails. Might explain some of the missing files if they had the same server as Hillary Clinton.

[Ally]

Er... no, you are not retiring. I am pretty sure this one broke me. You get the next one.