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  • Oh, Dear Boss...Ripperology and the Maybrick Diary and more Ripperology

    This episode of the unplanned and unscripted Oh, Dear Boss welcomes Paul Begg, Mark Ripper, Tom Wescott and Brian Young on to the show to discuss whatever suits our fancy. The topics this time are too numerous to list here, plus the Maybrick Diary.



    Available to steam or download now at the following link:

    http://www.casebook.org/podcast/listen.html?id=182

    Also FREE on iTunes, Podcast Addict, MixCloud and wherever you might go to find podcasts.

    Thank you for listening!



    JM
    Last edited by jmenges; 10-02-2017, 06:41 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by jmenges View Post
    This episode of the unplanned and unscripted Oh, Dear Boss welcomes Paul Begg, Mark Ripper, Tom Wescott and Brian Young on to the show to discuss whatever suits our fancy. The topics this time are too numerous to list here, plus the Maybrick Diary.



    Available to steam or download now at the following link:

    http://www.casebook.org/podcast/listen.html?id=182

    Also FREE on iTunes, Podcast Addict, MixCloud and wherever you might go to find podcasts.

    Thank you for listening!



    JM
    A truly wonderful podcast.

    Steve

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
      A truly wonderful podcast.

      Steve
      Agreed. Informative, entertaining and even handed.
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jmenges View Post
        This episode of the unplanned and unscripted Oh, Dear Boss welcomes Paul Begg, Mark Ripper, Tom Wescott and Brian Young on to the show to discuss whatever suits our fancy. The topics this time are too numerous to list here, plus the Maybrick Diary.



        Available to steam or download now at the following link:

        http://www.casebook.org/podcast/listen.html?id=182

        Also FREE on iTunes, Podcast Addict, MixCloud and wherever you might go to find podcasts.

        Thank you for listening!



        JM
        Great stuff, Jonathan. Keep up the good work.

        Cheers

        Chris
        Christopher T. George
        Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
        just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
        For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
        RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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        • #5
          Thanks for the early positive reviews. They are very much appreciated.

          JM

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          • #6
            I really enjoyed this one.
            G U T

            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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            • #7
              Listening now... I feel like I'll just use this post to add my comments as I would have, had I been on.

              Tom: No, I'm awake...
              Me: Go back to sleep, Oklahoma!

              Etc...

              Let all Oz be agreed;
              I'm Wicked through and through.

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              • #8
                If a person were hoaxing it back in time, in 1888, they would have been able to get ahold of a proper diary, not a photo album.

                Why would someone hoax it in 1888 and use a photo album, instead of a regular diary?

                Let all Oz be agreed;
                I'm Wicked through and through.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ally View Post
                  Why would someone hoax it in 1888 and use a photo album, instead of a regular diary?
                  Perhaps albums were going cheap in the Christmas sales?
                  Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                  "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                  • #10
                    I mean if you're going to write a real diary, you don't care what you use. But if you are going to hoax, you're going to try to make it as authentic as possible. Being in 1888, you can get a journal. People in 1988 have less options.

                    Oh someone's brought it up now... I think Tom...

                    Let all Oz be agreed;
                    I'm Wicked through and through.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ally View Post
                      If a person were hoaxing it back in time, in 1888, they would have been able to get ahold of a proper diary, not a photo album.

                      Why would someone hoax it in 1888 and use a photo album, instead of a regular diary?
                      And if we hypothesize the diary's genuine, why on earth would a wealthy, middle class Victorian merchant purchase a photo album to record his experiences rather than proper a journal?

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                      • #12
                        This is fun, it's like MST 3000 for Rippercast.

                        Let all Oz be agreed;
                        I'm Wicked through and through.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by John G View Post
                          And if we hypothesize the diary's genuine, why on earth would a wealthy, middle class Victorian merchant purchase a photo album to record his experiences rather than proper a journal?
                          As Michael Barrett soon discovered after coming into possession of the artifact known today as the "Maybrick Diary," when he ordered an authentic Victorian diary for comparison, such a diary is too small, and a larger format book was needed to tell the story. Seen below is an image of the little red Victorian diary that Mike ordered in 1992 for comparison purposes. It's held in the hand of the M/C, the late lamented Jeremy Beadle at "The Trial of James Maybrick" at the Liverpool Cricket Club in May 2007. Photograph courtesy of Tony May.

                          What is written in the document allegedly written by James Maybrick is not a diary despite the designation it has been given since 1993 when Shirley Harrison published The Diary of Jack the Ripper.

                          Rather it is the melodramatic narrative of someone riffing off the Ripper case and trying to convince us that they were the Whitechapel Murderer.

                          Best regards

                          Chris

                          Last edited by ChrisGeorge; 10-04-2017, 01:12 PM.
                          Christopher T. George
                          Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                          just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                          For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                          RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                          • #14
                            Replying to Ally---

                            Paul suggests that the author/confessor might have torn out the pages of the memorial book that contained physical reminders of his happy marriage now long past.

                            But it was only a suggestion, and by now you've gone past that part of the show.

                            JM
                            Last edited by jmenges; 10-04-2017, 01:15 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jmenges View Post
                              Replying to Ally---

                              Paul suggests that the author/confessor might have torn out the pages of the memorial book that contained physical reminders of his happy marriage now long past.

                              But it was only a sufraction, and by now you've gone past that part of the show.

                              JM
                              That argument is not too convincing, Jonathan, with due respect. What is written in the existing Diary covers a few months. There aren't enough pages cut/torn out from the beginning of the book to go back to those halcyon years when James and Florence Maybrick were doe-eyed lovers -- if they ever were!

                              Chris
                              Christopher T. George
                              Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                              just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                              For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                              RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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