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  • RivkahChaya
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    Originally posted by richardh View Post
    Really enjoyed tonight's episode (Sunday 28th). The characters are starting to flesh out and I'm getting more involved. Also like the flowery language they use (not sure if they spoke like that in 1888 but it's nice dialogue).
    It's hard to tell how Victorians talked. Letters and diaries, which writing is the closest we can get to natural language, is pretty purple, but also usually contains complete sentences, and people were taught to write letters then, to a much greater extent then they were even in the mid-20th century. I was taught to write letters in school in the 1970s, but strictly form, not content; Victorians were taught content, at least people who left enough correspondence behind for study.

    Playwrights certainly observed the way people talked, but play still had to have better dialogue then what the actors would produce just improvising, and when you consider that there has been a steady decline of form in dramatic dialogue, from rhymed verse, to blank verse, to the sort of dialogue Shaw wrote, to the very best TV dialogue (I've seen high school creative writing that is better than the worst of television, and I mean that in all seriousness), which is more stylized than a lot of people realize, but sounds a lot like natural speech.

    On the balance, I think Victorians were wordier than people are today, because entertainment and life influence each other, and also people just had more time then to sit around and be verbose. Writers used to get paid by the word, but concise speech became valued when the radio came around, and advertisers looked for slogans that packed a lot into very short phrases. Magazines started competing with both radio and TV, and started looking for shorter articles, and stopped paying by the word. They wanted to cut corners by cutting down on ink and paper, without cutting the number of articles, so they put limits on words; they also wanted to get papers turned over faster (my grandfather was a reporter from the 1930-1960s, and remembered the push for more and more speed in getting a story).

    That's just my opinion, but I've got a degree in English lit., so I've read a lot. You can even see changes in particular authors whose careers spanned the late Victorian era to well after WWI, or even II. They get a lot less wordier.

    If anyone comments TL;DR, I hate you.

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  • richardh
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    Really enjoyed tonight's episode (Sunday 28th). The characters are starting to flesh out and I'm getting more involved. Also like the flowery language they use (not sure if they spoke like that in 1888 but it's nice dialogue).

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  • Esther Wilson
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    Originally posted by The Grave Maurice View Post
    For any Canadians who haven't noticed, Ripper Street begins January 19th on Space.
    Yes!! I actually hadn't read this info until today but luckily I was watching something on the weekend and saw the trailer. I wasn't sure I was going to like it but it was much better than I thought. Will deffinately be watching the rest of them. Thanks for letting us know about this and it will teach me to keep on top of all the posts here.

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  • Esther Wilson
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    Originally posted by evertonmarc View Post
    Not sure if any of you noticed, but the culprit in the first episode, was the same actor that played Prince Albert in "From Hell".......
    I thought I recognized him from somewhere!

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  • Sally
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    The latest episode was less convincing in my view.

    Although, I have to say that I did admire Commissioner Munro's lovely Astrakhan trimmed coat and gold watch chain.

    That's one mystery solved then...

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  • Barnaby
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    It just was televised here in the States on BBC America. I enjoyed it, but not as much as the first season of Whitechapel. I skimmed this thread quickly because I don't want any spoilers. I did see discussion about some people "missing things" Ripper related and having to rewatch the episode. Did this occur in the first episode? If so, what should I look for? If not, well, I guess don't spoil it!

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  • Bridewell
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    Originally posted by Janner View Post
    I might be much mistaken, but some time ago I'm sure there was a link on here to a youtube video of someone's visit to MJK's grave; this was the soundtrack. Unfortunately, I'm jiggered if I can find it now.

    Edit: Found it, here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrUzgpRB4ZI
    Hi Janner,

    Well found - and thank-you.

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  • Janner
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    Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
    I missed that as well! (That's annoying, as I've never heard it).
    I might be much mistaken, but some time ago I'm sure there was a link on here to a youtube video of someone's visit to MJK's grave; this was the soundtrack. Unfortunately, I'm jiggered if I can find it now.

    Edit: Found it, here

    Last edited by Janner; 01-16-2013, 07:54 PM. Reason: Additional info

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  • richardh
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    Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
    Hi Richard,

    Thanks. I actually watched the episode - just missed all these things which others saw and I didn't.
    Yes, but you can replay on iplayer to catch the things you missed first time round

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  • Bridewell
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    Originally posted by richardh View Post
    Bridewell you can catch it again on bbc iplayer.
    Hi Richard,

    Thanks. I actually watched the episode - just missed all these things which others saw and I didn't.

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  • The Grave Maurice
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    For any Canadians who haven't noticed, Ripper Street begins January 19th on Space.

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  • richardh
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    Bridewell you can catch it again on bbc iplayer.

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  • Bridewell
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    Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
    Only a Violet...

    Now is that interesting or isn't it?

    All the best

    Dave
    I missed that as well! (That's annoying, as I've never heard it).

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  • Cogidubnus
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    Unashamedly I repeat myself...it's interesting...

    So who noticed the identity of the song being performed on stage when the police entered the somewhat dubious transvestite club?
    Only a Violet...

    Now is that interesting or isn't it?

    All the best

    Dave

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  • Bridewell
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    Continuity

    Originally posted by Observer View Post
    Hi Bridewell

    Not only did the scratches move from the left side of the face to the right they also returned to the left side again. And below a photo of Frances Coles the name Polly Nichols appeared, implying it was her in the photograph.

    Regards

    Observer
    I missed that. Still think the series is good entertainment, despite the wrongly-labelled photos and the continuity errors.

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