channel five documentry!

[mrmajester]

Liz Stride had a lovely set of teeth.

[Gideon Fell]

I thought Bill Beadle was excellent.

Its nice to see him in a production.

Id have liked to see a tad more location photos, even if to emphasise the excellent job Jakey has done.

As for the other complaints....it was a Gladstone bag, the lighting (IMHO) was out but it had to be, else we'd see very little if anything on screen, they showed Cross and Paul AFTER they met up and yes, Ill give you the apron in the yard.

Monty

The first thing I noticed was that the date of the attack on Emma Smith was given and captioned wrongly. She was attacked in the early hours of the 3rd of April not the 4th, she died on the morning of the 4th.

The Cross and Paul scene was wrong because it showed Paul following Cross as he spotted the body and not as spotting the body first then Paul approaching. That was no Gladstone bag it was a briefcase of modern design. The official report on the description given by Mrs Long had no mention of a hat but the newspaper report said a brown deerstalker not a low crowned felt hat.

I'm not trying to spoil anything it was very good otherwise.

[dixon9]

the programme that,is not liz's accent

[dixon9]

^agreed thought it was excellent

[Sally]

I enjoyed it - I didn't fancy Liz Stride's accent much though!

[Monty]

I thought Bill Beadle was excellent.

Its nice to see him in a production.

Id have liked to see a tad more location photos, even if to emphasise the excellent job Jakey has done.

As for the other complaints....it was a Gladstone bag, the lighting (IMHO) was out but it had to be, else we'd see very little if anything on screen, they showed Cross and Paul AFTER they met up and yes, Ill give you the apron in the yard.

Monty

[Steve S]

If we're talking picky-picky...The Life Guards at Bloody Sunday appeared to be in Early 19thcent uniforms.................

Steve

[Lechmere]

Blimey, the way its shaping up there was nothing authentic about it. They better cancel next week's show!

[The Grave Maurice]

Gideon! Nice to see you back. We haven't heard from you for a while. You seem to have viewed the programme quite closely. If it's ever shown on this side of the pond, I'll try to note the points you've made.

[Gideon Fell]

It all appeared quite brightly lit and didn't convey how dark the streets actually were. I can't find a reference for Mrs Long saying that the man she saw was wearing a low crowned felt hat. I thought a deerstalker was mentioned in the papers at the time.

[Gideon Fell]

The leather apron was shown found lying in the middle of the backyard at Hanbury Street. Surely it was under the tap on the wall? I thought I heard the voiceover say that 40 Berner Street was on the east side of the street but it was actually on the west side. I might have misheard that though.

[Chris]

Yes, I thought that was very good on the whole.

On one minor point, does anyone know why Israel Schwartz was described as being 22? As far as I know there's no direct evidence of the age of the witness. The likeliest candidate (to my mind) would have been about 24 in 1888.

[Gideon Fell]

Didn't they show Cross and Paul finding Nichols body together? Cross found it first then Paul came along.

[Lechmere]

Yes very good – I thought it said part two was on Thursday!
For a ‘normal’ viewer I suspect it wasn’t sensational enough – i.e. the bodies were half out of shot all the time or out of focus.

A few minor criticisms.

I am sure I saw a goatee beard on one of the Guardsmen on the ID line up.
There were two gas lights in Bucks Row. Probably to provide light to show what was going on, but a vital part of the situation was that nearly all the events were played out in almost pitch darkness. Obviously this is difficult to convey in a visual experience like a TV show, but I think they should have made the very dark scenes much darker.
Certain other aspects of the Polly Nichols case weren’t quite right. It made it sound as if she went off into the night in trepidation, rather than a bit cocky and drunk. I think her head was towards Brady, but they had her feet pointing that way. I might be wrong there though. Also Robert Paul was much too close.

[Gideon Fell]

They showed Swanson plonking away on his typewriter but weren't all his reports handwritten?