Whitechapel

[truebluedub]

I liked this show.

I agree on the hospital possibility. The hospital scene when the D.I asks to speak to "Dr.Philips" and the lady says "Are you sure?" - why mention his name if he was not to be brought into the story? My thoughts veer towards the so-far unseen Dr.Philips being the Jack copycat. Time shall tell.

If he (or Dr Cohen maybe drawing on the David Cohen theory) is the killer then I think the nurse/receptionist in that scene will be targeted possibly as Mary Kelly.

Chris Lowe

[AdamWalsh]

oh well - Ive never seen them around - what do you think about my assertation as to the mysterious Doctor alluded to earlier in the show?

[George Hutchinson]

Secondly - the victims - truth being there are no prostitutes (as far as I know) in those areas now...

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

Adam, that's like saying there are no roads in Whitechapel.

Commercial Street especially STILL has prostitutes. You can see them every single night, and that's one of the reasons why access to Dorset Street is being curtailed.

In fact one of them, Bonnie, was murdered by the copycat Whitechapel killer last year. I used to see her hanging around Itchy Park and thought, when she disappeared, that she'd OD'd (as she was clearly a drug addict) and then she turns up in the national press.

PHILIP

[AdamWalsh]

I liked it overall

One thing I did not like was the appearance of the Ripper at the first crime scene, his flitting past in the Ten Bells, and his appearance near the end.

Seems a bit melodramatic to have the murderer lurking within feet of the police on so many occasions. His first appearance still holding the bloody knife was pathetic- as if.

He appeared to be dressed in the same get-up, apron and all in the Ten Bells as he was in the CCTV and the deerstalker would stand out today exactly as was remarked upon by the police - "He looks like Sherlock Holmes!"

I don't think he would fit into the local population easily, unless there are many "eccentric" tour guides about or a JtR convention was going on.

Is he using a car or what? Or is he sticking with walking the streets all night? Nice for him (or her - see later) that he can find a victim at the correct time and location so easily.

I expect it to be someone from the hospital - not a disgruntled receptionist surely? - Her name wasn't Jill was it? strewth......

I agree on the hospital possibility. The hospital scene when the D.I asks to speak to "Dr.Philips" and the lady says "Are you sure?" - why mention his name if he was not to be brought into the story? My thoughts veer towards the so-far unseen Dr.Philips being the Jack copycat. Time shall tell.


Secondly - the victims - truth being there are no prostitutes (as far as I know) in those areas now and he simply had to make do with the lonely women he came across - they would do. The point being they were just merely available hence no connection to the murderer (interviewing the boyfriend was understandable but merely a necessity of police work).

[gandalf the grey]

Interesting and accurate reference to Mary Bousefield somewhere near the beginning of the production, I thought. I can attest to the fact that Bouse rhymes with Mouse and not Moose as enunciated in the episode. What a bunch of idiots to get that simple thing wrong! Mary was indeed a popular family Christian name in that household as I know it cropped up again as a friend of my mother's aged about ten in1934 or thereabouts in Star place.

It is terryfying to think that the police might actually be as portrayed in the programme.

[caz]

Speaking of the Monsoon, did anyone spot it? It featured twice, around the time of the piercing scream from the girl who ran from the scene of the second murder.

I can't wait to ask the chaps about it on Saturday - after Rob has ordered his stuffed mushrooms, of course, but before Liza has the chance to go on about the "orgasmic" food.

Love,

Caz
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[Monty]

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I'll text you.

Monty

[jmenges]

Thanks to you both!



JM

[George Hutchinson]

John's absolutely right. By 'shopping trolley', though, he doesn't mean a SUPERMARKET shopping trolley. He means one of those old-lady type trolleys you pull behind you.

Don's got it easy, though - his are normal sized paperbacks. Hardbacks are much heavier.

PHILIP

[John Bennett]

Hey Jon,

Don carries his around in a small shopping trolley. Sometimes you can hear it approaching.

No lie.

[jmenges]

Thanks, John.

I assumed that guides such as Rumbelow carry around books somehow. It was surprising to see this guide carry something the size of a golf club bag. Did Don hire a caddy when he was recovering from his injury? Now that would be a gig.



JM

[John Bennett]

Ah, you've seen it then!

The tour guide was pretty silly as well (do they really carry a suitcase full of hardback books?)

I know at least two guides who go around with books! Good ones too (the guides and the books). There'd be three if I could get mine sorted!

I was also wondering why they changed the victims photographs on the big board.

That's possibly a copyright issue, PRO and all that? Just a hunch.

[Rob Clack]

Rob - Monsoon. Stick to the korma son...you wont sweat as much.

Monty

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[jmenges]

and small talk from the most unconvicing bunch of C.I.D I have ever seen, the script in the office scenes was extremely poor, and the short guy attempting to come across as the cockey DS, simply did not work for me,

The Investigation room reminded me of Life on Mars. Modern detective being doubted by the tired old guard. All it lacked was a female DI that they could slap-ass. Cluttered office etc. The tour guide was pretty silly as well (do they really carry a suitcase full of hardback books?), but not nearly as annoying as the police. In each scene, whether he's viewing a corpse or eating curry, he covers his mouth to keep from puking. It's his only scene direction. You look like you are going to throw up. I recognize another of the officers from playing the pimp in London to Brighton, and he seems to be playing the same meat-head character.

I was also wondering why they changed the victims photographs on the big board.

I could go on.

The title sequence was great. The choking sounds of victim #1 were eerie. Nice aerial shots of London at night. I liked the CCTV shot of 'Leather Apron'.

Hopefully there will be a twist, hopefully the killer will not get caught. But so far, a pretty standard what you would expect copy-cat drama with a new-cop old-cop buddy formula.

JM

[Monty]

Think I'll stick with the original Jack.

Rob - Monsoon. Stick to the korma son...you wont sweat as much.

Monty