Cry of "Murder"

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  • richardnunweek
    Superintendent
    • Feb 2008
    • 2423

    #16
    Originally posted by Filby View Post

    Certainly possible. But the fact she was murdered is something quite distinguishable, imo.
    One could also suggest that if Kelly did have such a dream. she would have had it in the very bed she was killed, and as she told a court resident, most likely would have told her killer especially if known to her. Thus 'Dreams can come true''
    Richard.

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    • Sleuth1888
      Detective
      • May 2014
      • 107

      #17
      In the Tabram murder Francis Hewitt and his wife were woken by frequent fights taking place in Wentworth Street. He recalled hearing the cry "Murder" coming from the area.

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      • Juniper4576
        Constable
        • Jan 2021
        • 89

        #18
        Again, no evidence from me to back it up...could it of been MJK discovering the body (leads into why she was seen later 'the worse for drink'). Sorry to feed into the idea that the victim in Millers Court wasn't MJK
        "Seek the absence of the normal, and find the presence of the abnormal"

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        • Barnaby
          Sergeant
          • Feb 2008
          • 772

          #19
          Schwartz reported that Stride screamed three times, if you consider her murder a part of this series.

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          • Barnaby
            Sergeant
            • Feb 2008
            • 772

            #20
            Originally posted by Doctored Whatsit View Post
            The fact that two people heard a cry of "murder", and admit that they ignored it, because they said it happened quite frequently, and they don't seem to have been criticised, would appear to confirm that this cry was a fairly common event at the time! A cry of "help" might have received a response, perhaps, despite it sounding less serious!

            Murder itself clearly was not common.
            If they really did hear this, it would also be a good example of the bystander effect.

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            • Abby Normal
              Commissioner
              • Jun 2010
              • 11946

              #21
              except of course was that a women was actually murdered there so the two witnesses who heard tje cry of murder, whatevers its lingo at the time, probably means it was the victims last cry for help. one of them even said it sounded like it was a womens cry coming from the direction of marys room. in tje middle of tje night when the ripper usually struck. the cries of murder were mary kellys last words.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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