Originally posted by Michael W Richards
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Liz Stride is seen in front of the club at 12:35.
Fanny Mortimer goes indoors for a few minutes.-Approx 12:38
Even though Fanny Mortimer never once mentions going back indoors before that time…or. Ring on her doorstep for that matter.
Eagle arrives.
Louis arrives.-Approx 12:40
Unseen or heard by anyone…horse and cart in ‘stealth mode.’
Goes indoors to see his wife and call for assitance-12:41
Disputed by Eagle, Gilleman, Mrs Diemschitz, Mila, Julius Minsky and no doubt all of the others that they interviewed except for Kozebrodsky and Heschberg (who were part of the plot but appear to have forgotten that the entire plot was based around lying the Louis found the body at 1.00. DOH!
Issac K and Heshberg and others are called to the passageway: Approx 12:41-42
Waiting for the body to arrive?
Issac is sent for help-Approx 12:45-46
But his calls for help are unheard until 15 minutes later by Brown. Spooky.
Louis and Issacs go for help-Approx 12:45-46
Despite the fact that we know that Kozebrodsky was commonly known as Isaacs. Where does this separate/mystery Isaacs go?
Eagle goes for help-Approx 12:47
13 minutes before he’s told about the murder by Gilleman.
Louis and Issacs return with Spooner-Approx 12:50-12:52
So you say that it’s unreasonable for me to suggest that Heschberg and Kozebrodsky were wrong by 15 or 20 minutes but apparently it’s absolutely acceptable for you to suggest that Spooner was wrong by 15-17 minutes (he said that he arrived at the yard at 12.35.) Talk about ‘one rule for one…’

Fanny comes back to her door-Approx 12:53-54
So your last mention of Fanny was her going indoors at 12.38. Now she’s back on her doorstep 15 or 16 minutes later. How do you work that out? And how can it be claimed that she was on her doorstep for most of the time between 12.30 and 1.00 when you’ve just had her indoors for half that time.
Fanny sees Leon-Approx 12:55-56
A part that I won’t dispute even.

Eagle is seen by Lamb-Approx 12:55-1:00am
So from Louis finding the body at 12.40 Eagle gets to Lamb 20 minutes later?! Did he stop off for a cup of tea? You gave Fanny on her doorstep from 12.53/12.54 so why didn’t she see Eagle pass? Why didn’t Miss Letchford see him either?
Eagle, Lamb and Issac K arrive back at the gates: 1:01-1:03.
So Spooner’s 5 minutes before Lamb was 10 minutes not 5? But you said that Isaac was sent for help at 12.45/6. So where had he been for the last 15 minutes?
Eagle goes to notify the station-1:03
Johnson gets a call-Approx 1:05
Johnson arrives at the scene-Approx 1:10
Allowing some leeway by a few minutes here or there doesnt bother me, but suggesting that Louis did arrive at 1 like he claimed means that all the other witnesses were off by 10 minutes or so.
Louis....and his club minions backing his claim....or everyone else. With nothing to lose or gain.
Nope, you aren’t being allowed your ‘get out clause.’ We’re not having ‘they were plotters so they lied.’ You have to prove that they were plotters first and you can’t do that.

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