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    I thought I'd see if anyone has any insight into who Mod Sullivan was and what her connection to the case was. I believe the only press mention of her under this name is the following, from the Echo of Nov. 9th, 1888.

    The house belongs to Mr. McCarthy, who keeps a chandler's shop common lodging - houses in the district, notably one in which "Pearly Poll", Mod Sullivan, and other women - incidentally mentioned in the inquiries relating to the atrocities - were accustomed to live.

    Mod would obviously not be a real first name, but the best guess I have as to her identity is that she's the sister of Mr Crossingham, of 35 Dorset Street fame, which was indeed the residence of Pearly Poll in the second half of 1888. Mr. Crossingham's brother-in-law was Danny Sullivan, which is why I've suggested Mod Sullivan was his wife. If this were the case, I would imagine the tangential connection referred to by the reporter is that she would have been interviewed by the police following the murder of Annie Chapman, who likewise lived at 35 Dorset Street. The main problem I have with accepting this theory is that I don't see Danny and his wife LIVING at the lodging house, but only working there. Come 1891 their address was 4 Paternoster Row, but I have no idea about 1888. Anyway, I'm curious to know more about this witness, so if anyone has any info or ideas, please share them.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

  • #2
    I would guess that 'Mod' was an Irish (or Scouse maybe, or Scottish) pronunciation of 'Maud'.
    http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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    • #3
      There's a 25-year-old Maud Sullivan in Clerkenwell Prison in the 1881 census, a laundress, born in Marylebone, but also a lunatic.

      Regards, Bridewell.
      I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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      • #4
        Hi Ruby. I thought about that, but I wonder if it's not an error of some sort. I know Pearly Poll's other alias was 'Mogg', so I wonder if it should have read 'Mogg Sullivan', or whatnot. I have never seen 'Mod' used as a nickname and was curious if anyone else had.

        Brides,

        Very interesting! Any sign of her in the 1891?

        Yours truly,

        Tom Wescott

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        • #5
          Maud

          Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
          Hi Ruby. I thought about that, but I wonder if it's not an error of some sort. I know Pearly Poll's other alias was 'Mogg', so I wonder if it should have read 'Mogg Sullivan', or whatnot. I have never seen 'Mod' used as a nickname and was curious if anyone else had.

          Brides,

          Very interesting! Any sign of her in the 1891?

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott
          Hi Tom,

          Can't find her as a confident match in the 1891 census or as a death.

          Regards, Bridewell.
          I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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          • #6
            Naughty Maud

            There's a Maud Sullivan convicted in London for larceny in a dwelling house and receiving, apparently in cahoots with two men, Thomas Brooks and Charles Welch, on February 22nd 1892. Could this be the same Maud Sullivan?

            Brooks got 10 weeks, Welch paid a hefty fine and Sullivan got 12 months - so you'd guess she was the ringleader.

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            • #7
              Hi Sally, that very well could be her. I'll take a look.

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
                Hi Tom,

                Can't find her as a confident match in the 1891 census or as a death.

                Regards, Bridewell.
                no marriage record either?

                How about for Danny Sullivan?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                  Hi Sally, that very well could be her. I'll take a look.

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott
                  It might be interesting to check out the men, Thomas Brooks and Charles Welch, as well.

                  My overactive imagination is off and running . . . .

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                  • #10
                    I've heard Mogg as a nickname for Margaret, but never Mod as a female nickname...unless it's short for Modesty?

                    Dave

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                    • #11
                      If anyone can produce an actual scan of the article itself, that might be helpful. I simply read the typed version in press reports.

                      Yours truly,

                      Tom Wescott

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                      • #12
                        Hi Tom

                        Just been reading 'literacy of Jacks victims' thread - post 7, by Debra A details a Mary A Sullivan, former prisoner connected to Brick lane

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                        • #13
                          .unless it's short for Modesty?
                          I think that Modesty tends to be long rather than short.
                          http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mr Lucky View Post
                            Hi Tom

                            Just been reading 'literacy of Jacks victims' thread - post 7, by Debra A details a Mary A Sullivan, former prisoner connected to Brick lane
                            I'd forgotten about that, Mr Lucky. I don't think it's relevant though.
                            The Mary Ann Sullivan in that case wasn't a prisoner, she was supposedly lodging near the Brick Lane shop address of Mr Hatton, which was used as a c/o address for letters written to people staying in a lodging house in the area.
                            A certain prisoner wished to write to her but the prisoner's letter to Mary Ann Sullivan is still included in the file as it wasn't delivered, she was unknown by Mr Hatton. The prisoner addresses Mary Ann as Polly in the letter.

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                            • #15
                              Hi Debra A

                              Thanks for the correction and extra information. Interesting that another 'Mary Ann' is nicknamed Poll or Polly.

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