Do we believe Mrs. Fiddymont?

[GregBaron]

The Gingerbread Man...

Can't believe you people are down on the poor Gingers...

Has a ginger ever been tried and convicted of serial killings?

I know of none....

What are the percentages of Gingers in the population? How bout Whitechapel 1888? What is the likelihood the perp is a ginger, all things being equal?

Ginger's are nice people, I don't think they have it in their DNA....

Nah, I'm sticking with the maniacal Jew theory...dark and sinister...


Greg

[Abby Normal]

Piggott should be higher up the suspect list IMHO.

yup-him and puckridge (age may rule him out though). I believe neither have recorded as being cleared?

[lynn cates]

Aprons R Us

Hello Colin. Indeed so.

Even better if he had worn an apron with knives affixed.

Cheers.
LC

[Steve S]

IF one accepts the 05:30 timing , it has a sort of logic...Early in the series....maybe still a bit shocked by what he's done himself...wanders a bit...needs a drink?

[Bridewell]

Hi Sir John

Mrs Fiddymont, Mrs Chapell and Mr Taylor did have a look at William Piggott in a police line up.

Only Mrs Chapel picked Piggott out, and she was unsure.

But Piggott did have a ripped shirt with blood stains, and he also had a bite on his hand from his earlier altercation with a woman in Brick Lane.
Piggott quickly relocated to Gravesend from Whitechapel, and was later found in another pub, drawing attention to himself.

Piggott should be higher up the suspect list IMHO.

[Jon Guy]

not to mention Lawendes Fair haired suspect, and Ada wilsons

.. and local weirdo Edward McKenna (who wore a skull cap, just like the person who stuck his head around the Ten Bells door at 5am and supposedly called Annie Chapman outside).

[Jon Guy]

In case anyone is interested. In Sugden's book, in the Isenchmid chapter, there are three short lines in a paragraph that says that there were attempts from the police for Mrs Fiddymont and M Taylor to identify the man, but the resident medical officer, Dr Mickle, refused. Since records were lost or destroyed, it is not known if they finally did meet him

Hi Sir John

Mrs Fiddymont, Mrs Chapell and Mr Taylor did have a look at William Piggott in a police line up.

Only Mrs Chapel picked Piggott out, and she was unsure.

But Piggott did have a ripped shirt with blood stains, and he also had a bite on his hand from his earlier altercation with a woman in Brick Lane.
Piggott quickly relocated to Gravesend from Whitechapel, and was later found in another pub, drawing attention to himself.

[lynn cates]

castaway

Hello Rosella.

"What do you have against Ginger?"

Prefer Mary Ann, myself. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Rosella]

Hi all

Taylors sighting, pipeman, blotchy face. Too many gingers lurking about near the scenes of the crime for my liking.
All the best.

What do you have against gingers?

[SirJohnFalstaff]

I don't understand where you got the "six hours after the killing".

The man entered the pub at 7am. Chapman was killed probably shortly before sunrise. There was no DST at the time.


Back to the topic: Yes. I would consider the whole trio in that pub credible witnesses. While Mrs Fiddymont was used to identify a suspect, and failed, I find it frustrating that there is no certainty they brought her to identify Isenschmid.

And like Lynn said, the man who followed the "suspicious ginger" had a very good description.

In case anyone is interested. In Sugden's book, in the Isenchmid chapter, there are three short lines in a paragraph that says that there were attempts from the police for Mrs Fiddymont and M Taylor to identify the man, but the resident medical officer, Dr Mickle, refused. Since records were lost or destroyed, it is not known if they finally did meet him

[Abby Normal]

Hi all

Taylors sighting, pipeman, blotchy face. Too many gingers lurking about near the scenes of the crime for my liking.
All the best.

not to mention Lawendes Fair haired suspect, and Ada wilsons

[martin wilson]

Hi all

Taylors sighting, pipeman, blotchy face. Too many gingers lurking about near the scenes of the crime for my liking.
All the best.

[RockySullivan]

Hello Rocky. Thanks.

"I think he would've been in a pub possibly listening to the gossip about his work and also looking for his next victim. I think the ripper liked to drink and I think it's how he picked his victims...in the pubs."

All conjecture, surely?

Cheers.
LC

Purely LC

[lynn cates]

levels of consciousness

Hello Damaso. Thanks.

"The man that Mrs Fiddymont saw took steps to hide himself from other people at the bar, made sure to get out of the bar as quickly as he could, and was hiding his face. This doesn't strike me as the actions of a madman who thought he had just slaughtered a horse: it strikes me as the actions of somebody who knew he had just done something that society considered wrong."

Same as the lad who bolted from the house on Eltham (Elthorne) rd.

I think my lad was aware AT SOME LEVEL. Based on his charts, his lucidity waxed and waned with alarming rapidity.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

conjections

Hello Rocky. Thanks.

"I think he would've been in a pub possibly listening to the gossip about his work and also looking for his next victim. I think the ripper liked to drink and I think it's how he picked his victims...in the pubs."

All conjecture, surely?

Cheers.
LC