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  • #16
    Could be. Were all the staff Swedish?
    Hi Lynn

    There's nothing to say for sure either way - but as the Swedish Church was (and is) a Lutheran organisation it's unlikely by the Late Victorian Period that the services were held in say Latin...and to be in anything other than Swedish would rather defeat the purpose would it not?

    So I'd say it was at least likely the clerics were Swedish...

    Dave

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
      Marshall: Middle-aged. 5' 6", rather stout, small black coat, dark trousers. Round cap with a small peak to it, something like what a sailor would wear.
      What does anyone picture when they read "round cap"?
      Why would the cap be described as "round", arn't all caps round?

      Or, are we supposed to envisage the "round" as referring to the top of the cap? Like a deerstalker or bowler hat is "round" over the top of the head, not flat like most caps.
      Therefore he was not wearing a cap "like a sailor would wear", but that the cap he wore had a small "peak" like what a sailor would wear.

      Its just something that has always niggled me, which did he mean?.

      Regards, Jon S.
      Regards, Jon S.

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      • #18
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        Hello Dave. Thanks.

        Well, I'm not sure about defeating its purpose. It seems to me that the attraction of the church could have been cultural--not just linguistic. But I do presume services in Swedish.

        I also presume that most of the staff were Swedish. And at inquest we know that Liz was said to speak Swedish to some people (given, of course, the witness really knew it was Swedish).

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • #19
          Round Cap

          Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
          What does anyone picture when they read "round cap"?
          Why would the cap be described as "round", arn't all caps round?

          Or, are we supposed to envisage the "round" as referring to the top of the cap? Like a deerstalker or bowler hat is "round" over the top of the head, not flat like most caps.
          Therefore he was not wearing a cap "like a sailor would wear", but that the cap he wore had a small "peak" like what a sailor would wear.

          Its just something that has always niggled me, which did he mean?.

          Regards, Jon S.
          Hi Jon,

          I agree that all caps are more or less round on the horizontal plane, close to the head, but only some are round on the same plane at the top, or on the vertical.

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          I guess either of these (colour apart) could be called 'round', but only one has a peak.

          Regards, Bridewell
          I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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          • #20
            Stride was with numerous men that night, did not have a new boyfriend, and probably would have gone back to Michael Kidney within a week or two, just as he expected she would. Any supposition to the contrary is fantastical, romantic, and not at all in keeping with the facts. And by facts I do not meet carefully chosen and isolated facts, but the picture painted by the most reliable evidence at our disposal, all of which points to Stride having been seen with more than one (many more than one, in fact) men on the night of her death.

            Yours truly,

            Tom Wescott

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