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Hello All ,
I have a quick tale to pass on , maybe its Nothing , but then again .. at the very most i guess it could be an interesting link to check out . i did have a go myself but came up with nothing ..but i am sure there are alot better detectives on here than Me ..
I was just recently in a London pub chatting with a good friend of my dad . Who, back in the day used to be a young man in a small firm ( gang) around the Hoxton , Murry grove area ( central , East London ) . After chatting about the old East End and the Ripper murders , He told me that on occasions his little firm were Visited by Ronnie Kray , and asked to run errand's across the water ( South London ) to another firm . He told me that on one occasion he and his pals ended up in a pub in bermondsey or somewhere close by, having a few beers with the south London firm . He went on to say that one of the brothers in this firm after a few beers started ranting on about his family having their roots in the East End .. And that their Granddad John was even a Main witness at one of the Jack the Rippers murders .The Name of the Gang was the Richardsons .
I will admit that the conversation we was having was the hanbury street murder and my disbelief of some of the witnesses .. in particular John Richardson . at which point he stopped me in my tracks, and matter of faculty told me " that was Charlie Richardsons Grandad ". And then followed through with how he came to hear it.
Now i know that nearly everyone in the East End (of a certain age) has a Ripper tale to tell .. But for the life of me i cant see my Dad's pal Telling me porky's ( Pork pies =lies ) Maybe the Original teller was expressing a certain amount of creative licence ? to get his point across , i really don't know but i did think it worthy of a mention on here .
And i'm also pretty sure its easy to prove or diprove it in a heartbeat. Especially given the Internet tools and the wise fools ( that was a mistake , but i like it, so i'm leaving it in ) we have at our disposal .
cheers all
moonbegger .
Ps .. if it turns out to be pony ( Pony and trap = Crap ) [ Thomas Crapper ] please dont shoot the Messenger
I have a quick tale to pass on , maybe its Nothing , but then again .. at the very most i guess it could be an interesting link to check out . i did have a go myself but came up with nothing ..but i am sure there are alot better detectives on here than Me ..
I was just recently in a London pub chatting with a good friend of my dad . Who, back in the day used to be a young man in a small firm ( gang) around the Hoxton , Murry grove area ( central , East London ) . After chatting about the old East End and the Ripper murders , He told me that on occasions his little firm were Visited by Ronnie Kray , and asked to run errand's across the water ( South London ) to another firm . He told me that on one occasion he and his pals ended up in a pub in bermondsey or somewhere close by, having a few beers with the south London firm . He went on to say that one of the brothers in this firm after a few beers started ranting on about his family having their roots in the East End .. And that their Granddad John was even a Main witness at one of the Jack the Rippers murders .The Name of the Gang was the Richardsons .
I will admit that the conversation we was having was the hanbury street murder and my disbelief of some of the witnesses .. in particular John Richardson . at which point he stopped me in my tracks, and matter of faculty told me " that was Charlie Richardsons Grandad ". And then followed through with how he came to hear it.
Now i know that nearly everyone in the East End (of a certain age) has a Ripper tale to tell .. But for the life of me i cant see my Dad's pal Telling me porky's ( Pork pies =lies ) Maybe the Original teller was expressing a certain amount of creative licence ? to get his point across , i really don't know but i did think it worthy of a mention on here .
And i'm also pretty sure its easy to prove or diprove it in a heartbeat. Especially given the Internet tools and the wise fools ( that was a mistake , but i like it, so i'm leaving it in ) we have at our disposal .
cheers all
moonbegger .
Ps .. if it turns out to be pony ( Pony and trap = Crap ) [ Thomas Crapper ] please dont shoot the Messenger
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