Who's talking Cobblers ? John Richardson ?

[RockySullivan]

so would a market porter like richardson use chalk? Or would his families packing case business keep chalk for any purpose?

[RockySullivan]

Well he could have been kneeling, standing bent over, squatting take your pick. The evidence from Swanson however is pretty clear he was investigated and cleared.

No doubt you will say so were other serial killers the difference is they were eventually proven to be serial killers. For my money you need a lot more than anyone has come up with regarding Richardson to hang it on him.

What was the rest of his life like?

I don't think it's accurate to say he was cleared. It's a big step from "suspicion could not rest upon him" to he had some kind of rock solid alibi like he was in prison that eliminates him from possibility. I don't think he was cleared from anything I've seen (which isn't much). I don't even see anything that indicates his contradicting testimony at the inquest was ever addressed.

[GUT]

Gut tell me this...what position would the ripper have been in while mutilating chapman and going thru her pockets?

Well he could have been kneeling, standing bent over, squatting take your pick. The evidence from Swanson however is pretty clear he was investigated and cleared.

No doubt you will say so were other serial killers the difference is they were eventually proven to be serial killers. For my money you need a lot more than anyone has come up with regarding Richardson to hang it on him.

What was the rest of his life like?

[RockySullivan]

Gut tell me this...what position would the ripper have been in while mutilating chapman and going thru her pockets?

[RockySullivan]

That's what I meant...if richardson heard they'd found his gaiter spring at the body could that be one of the reasons he changed his story to include the cobbling?

[GUT]

The evidence about a boot spring, there is mention of a legging spring, but what boot spring.

[RockySullivan]

From inquest:
"There was also a piece of steel, flat, which has since been identified by Mrs. Richardson as the spring of her son's leggings.
[Coroner] Where was that found? - It was close to where the body had been"

I'm just saying it could be the reason why richardson came up with the cobbling story...to account for his legging spring (not boot spring sorry)...

[RockySullivan]

And the evidence of this is ...???????

Sorry gut the evidence of what? Do you want the source that says they found richardsons spring at the body or are you asking for something else?

[GUT]

Could the reason richardson changed his story to include working on his boot been that he learned the police found his boot spring next to the body?

And the evidence of this is ...???????

[RockySullivan]

Could the reason richardson changed his story to include working on his boot been that he learned the police found his boot spring next to the body?

[RockySullivan]

I could have sworn I read amelia richardson say her son kept a knife in the basement with his leather apron in one of the press reports. Was the cellar searched I wonder? If so we would likely see mention of it. Could richardson have not just checked the cellar padlock...but actually have gone into the cellar that morning?

[RockySullivan]

I'm not saying we shld dismiss the witnesses to try to frame richardson, but his story doesn't check out, and he's obviously lying.

[RockySullivan]

Well, if Richardson was lying then Mrs Long & Cadosch are also wrong.
So then you have to find a solution for someone being on the other side of the fence from Cadosch at the same time as Chapman was laid there all mutilated and exposed.

I suspect richardson was cleaning up his mess in the yard and was likely there much longer than he claimed. Did liz know richardson from spitalfields market since they both worked there? Could she have lied?

[RockySullivan]

Well to me it means we looked closely at him but found there was no reason to suspect him of anything, if the "investigation ht a brick wall" why wouldn't have Swanson sad something like "We liked the look of Richardson but couldn't pin t on him, but I suspect he was our man". Nope instead Swanson appears to pump of Koz.

Why wouldn't richardson three different version of events, one to chandler and two at the inquest, be considered evidence?

[Wickerman]

The key point to be taken from this is "suspicion COULD NOT rest upon him, although police specially directed their attention on him". To me that means, he was suspected of being the murderer but the investigation hit a brick wall.

Well, if Richardson was lying then Mrs Long & Cadosch are also wrong.
So then you have to find a solution for someone being on the other side of the fence from Cadosch at the same time as Chapman was laid there all mutilated and exposed.