Schwartz, a fraud?

[Bridewell]

Thus Anderson’s witness must have been Schwartz. It could have been no-one else.

"(unless possibly it was the City P.C. who was (on) a beat near Mitre Square)".

included in the Aberconway version of the MM, but omitted from the final draft. Omitted because it was wrong or because it revealed something best kept secret? I am reluctant to discount the possibility that MacNaghten was not mistaken and meant exactly what he said.

Regards, Bridewell

[Bridewell]

the high levels of BS which continue to permeate these boards.

Hi Simon,

I take it the BS alluded to has nothing to do with Broad Shoulders

Regards, Bridewell

[lynn cates]

Stand aside, Diogenes.

Hello Colin.

"Omitted because it was wrong or because it revealed something best kept secret?"

Oh, dear! You've been doing the Ripper long enough to become cynical. Tsk.

Cheers.
LC

[Cogidubnus]

Are you suggesting it's your turn in the barrel Lynn?

Dave

[Bridewell]

My Cynicism

Hello Colin.

"Omitted because it was wrong or because it revealed something best kept secret?"

Oh, dear! You've been doing the Ripper long enough to become cynical. Tsk.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

My thought process is this. MacNaghten decided to keep a copy of the MM for his own use. Both that copy (Aberconway) and the file copy were type-written. If the Aberconway version was wrong, would he not have made a carbon copy of the final document and kept that instead? Why keep the supposedly inaccurate Aberconway version? Jonathan H believes, I think (correct me if I'm wrong, JH)that the MM was placed on file by MacNaghten to suggest that MJD was considered but ruled out. What was his purpose in keeping a different version of the same document among his own personal papers? He kept it for a reason, surely? The near universal default position seems to be that MacNaghten got it wrong in the Aberconway version. Perhaps he did, but should we lightly discard the notion that - perhaps - he got it right?

Regards, Bridewell.

[Cogidubnus]

Hi Colin, Lynn

Jonathan has a theory that the Aberconway version, rather than being a draft, is actually a later adaptation of the original MM, both being prepared for different purposes...for exposure to different parties...(I'm more than halfway convinced he's right)...which makes the City PC thing (and perhaps Harveys later sacking) even more interesting...

Dave

[Bridewell]

Hi Colin, Lynn

Jonathan has a theory that the Aberconway version, rather than being a draft, is actually a later adaptation of the original MM, both being prepared for different purposes...for exposure to different parties...(I'm more than halfway convinced he's right)...which makes the City PC thing (and perhaps Harveys later sacking) even more interesting...

Dave

And perhaps also the suggestion that the reason for Harvey's sacking isn't recorded.

Regards, Colin

[lynn cates]

traditional

Hello Dave. Certainly not. You KNOW how straight laced I am. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Druitt, did he do it?

Hello Colin. You mean right about Druitt?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Con@#$%^&*

Hello Dave, Colin.

"which makes the City PC thing (and perhaps Harvey's later sacking) even more interesting."

Oh, fie upon it! Conspiracy theorists!

Cheers.
LC

[Cogidubnus]

Hello Dave. Certainly not. You KNOW how straight laced I am. (heh-heh)

Yeth you're a tewwible pwude...

Dave

[Cogidubnus]

"which makes the City PC thing (and perhaps Harvey's later sacking) even more interesting."

Oh, fie upon it! Conspiracy theorists!

Where on earth do you suppose we got it from Lynn?

Dave

[lynn cates]

"Not I," said the cow. "Moo. Such a thing I'd never do."

Hello Dave. Well, don't look at me. You KNOW how traditional I am.

Cheers.
LC

[Cogidubnus]

Was that a denial or a vow?

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks..."

Dave

[Bridewell]

Horses Sweat, Men Conspire?

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks..."

Dave

Dave,

I have it on good authority that Lynn, though undoubtedly virtuous, is assuredly no lady!

Lynn,

Conspiracy Theorists? I simply surmised that Sir MM may have been something other than mistaken when he alluded to "the City P.C. who was (on) a beat near Mitre Square". That's what he wrote. Perhaps that's what he meant. I'll admit to being older (just!) than Dave, but even I haven't been around long enough to conspire with Sir Melville MacNaghten!

Regards, Colin.