The case evidence and its implications

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  • Harry D
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    • May 2014
    • 3360

    #316
    I think most of the torsos were in fact the work of one killer, or a conspiracy. I don't think they were unconnected or random.

    Pinchin St torso is intriguing. Why would the Torso Killer (if it was the same guy) step into Ripper turf? And a couple of months after the murder of Alice Mackenzie, no less. Hmmmm...

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    • Sam Flynn
      Casebook Supporter
      • Feb 2008
      • 13333

      #317
      Originally posted by Harry D View Post
      Pinchin St torso is intriguing. Why would the Torso Killer (if it was the same guy) step into Ripper turf?
      Well, he didn't really, as Pinchin Street was a bit off the beaten track for the Ripper (as was Stride, if we're honest), and the PST doesn't exactly share too many characteristics with the Ripper murders. Furthermore, PST still had its arms attached, which is not something that we associate with "the" Torso Killer at all. It looks very likely to me that, whoever was responsible for PST, they were different from the perpetrator(s) of the "West London Torsos", and not Jack the Ripper either.
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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      • Harry D
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        • May 2014
        • 3360

        #318
        Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
        Well, he didn't really, as Pinchin Street was a bit off the beaten track for the Ripper (as was Stride, if we're honest), and the PST doesn't exactly share too many characteristics with the Ripper murders. Furthermore, PST still had its arms attached, which is not something that we associate with "the" Torso Killer at all. It looks very likely to me that, whoever was responsible for PST, they were different from the perpetrator(s) of the "West London Torsos", and not Jack the Ripper either.
        Come on, Sam. Let's not split hairs. It was still in Whitechapel, a district of less than a square mile.

        And Nichols' murder is actually furthest from the group than any of them. You wouldn't preclude her on those grounds?

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        • FrankO
          Superintendent
          • Feb 2008
          • 2108

          #319
          Originally posted by jerryd View Post

          Hi FrankO,

          Dr. Neville examined the arm first and said the date of death was 3 to 4 days prior to his examination on the 11th/12th of September. He was confident Dr. Bond would conclude the same. Dr. Neville was not called to the inquest.
          Thanks for the addition, Jerry!
          "You can rob me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me."
          Clint Eastwood as Gunny in "Heartbreak Ridge"

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          • Sam Flynn
            Casebook Supporter
            • Feb 2008
            • 13333

            #320
            Originally posted by Harry D View Post

            Come on, Sam. Let's not split hairs. It was still in Whitechapel, a district of less than a square mile.
            I'm not splitting hairs. The sites of Stride's murder and Pinchin Street were well below the line delimited by Whitechapel Rd/Whitechapel High St/Aldgate. All the murders which unequivocally featured "ripping" happened above that line.
            And Nichols' murder is actually furthest from the group than any of them. You wouldn't preclude her on those grounds?
            I'm not talking about distance, but about a killer who didn't cross the physical, and possibly psychological, boundary of Whitechapel Rd/High St/Aldgate. If, as I believe was likely the case, we base the killer in central Spitalfields, we can fan out for similar distances at either side to reach the scenes of the Eddowes and Nichols murders, with the sites of Chapman's and Kelly's sitting not far from the apex of this imaginary arc.
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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