The Home Office annotations - do they rule out a bayonet?

[DVV]

Not sure what you're asking me, Simon. Re precanonical cases, my view does not reflect the opinion of the majority. Let's say I believe the C1 should be called C4, C5 or C6.

[Simon Wood]

Hi David,

You appeared to suggest that Emma Smith may have lied about her three attackers.

Regards,

Simon

[DVV]

Yes Simon, she lied. Just like Wilson (robbery).

[Simon Wood]

Hi David,

Sorry, I don't get it.

Why would she have lied?

Regards,

Simon

[DVV]

Why would she have lied?
Simon

Again, my dear, just like Wilson : not to tell the doctor it was a client.

[lynn cates]

You can tell.

Hello David. Don't mean to butt in, but things of THAT nature are alright to:

1. Tell a doctor.

2. Tell a priest.

Confidentiality, right?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Presbyterian prostitutes ?

Lol....Emma Smith was certainly a perfect Christian, just as Wilson. But fact is that Wilson lied (unless Bierman had a better reason to lie in your opinion), and that Smith's account isn't completely convincing.

[lynn cates]

motivation

Hello David. IF Smith lied, it was not likely to hide her "vocation."

How about, "She lied because she feared repercussions from the gang which had assaulted her"?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Hello David. IF Smith lied, it was not likely to hide her "vocation."

How about, "She lied because she feared repercussions from the gang which had assaulted her"?

Cheers.
LC

Oh, that's interesting, Lynn.
She was attacked by a gang.
And then she lied saying "I've been attacked by a gang".

[lynn cates]

other way

Hello David. No, no. She omitted details, did not identify, etc.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

IF Smith lied
LC

Lynn, unless you have an agenda here, let's put it straight : she did lie.
Could you figure such a scene in Osborn Street with no witness ? And her lying on the ground, there, for HOURS, without witness ?

[lynn cates]

proposition

Hello David. Agenda? Certainly not. To be honest, I don't care a feather or a fig about the case.

Very well. If she lied, she articulated a false proposition. What was that proposition?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

revenge of el trio Los Bastardos

Hello David. No, no. She omitted details, did not identify, etc.

Cheers.
LC

I can see you really need a gang there, don't you ?

The simplest way to feel safe from the gang's revenge was to tell she had been attacked by one man, no ?

[lynn cates]

safety

Hello David. Need? I need nothing at all.

The easiest way to feel safe was, "Don't ask; don't tell; don't pursue. Just let me go home."

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Need? I need nothing at all.

Except a gang in a case you pretend not to care about ?

The easiest way to feel safe was, "Don't ask; don't tell; don't pursue. Just let me go home."

Please, I was simply commenting on your own suggestion, which was : she feared some revenge from the gang (that never was).
And I quite logically objected that the simplest way to feel safe would have been to fabricate a story that involved no gang.

She lied just like Wilson, for the same reason, exactly.