How likely is she to have been a Ripper victim?

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  • kensei
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    From an American perspective, the BTK killer Dennis Rader- who is known to have had extremely powerful fantasies driving him- was able to contain his urges enough to put years between some of his killings.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Those who dismiss Coles and Mackenzie as being Ripper victims are very naieve.

    To say Coles was not just beacuse of the time gap again is foolish. Many serial killler have abstained from killing for considerable lenghts of time for varying reasons. To quote an example Peter Sutcliffe went 11 months without killing.

    removal of the rose tinted spectacles might help to alleviate naievety

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  • Monty
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    Guys,

    I think that it would be safe to say that while some people are convinced that she was a Ripper victim, most Ripperologists dismiss the idea
    I think these Ripperologists do so out of hand, without looking at the evidence as a whole.

    Ive always found it odd those who accept Stride easily dismiss Coles simply because she doesnt fit with the timeline.

    Look at the Stride murder and you are almost looking at Coles. A throat cut, possibility of the discoverer stumbling on the attacker, life only just escaping from the poor victim, the location, etc.

    Marked similarities that would seem conicendental however I feel to look at one you must look at the other.

    Monty

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  • The Grave Maurice
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    Originally posted by Bulldog View Post
    I think that it would be safe to say that while some people are convinced that she was a Ripper victim, most Ripperologists dismiss the idea.
    I agree with that. In my opinion, James Thomas Sadler dunnit, and he wasn't the Ripper. End of story. But, as in just about everything related to JtR, it's open to debate.

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  • sdreid
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    I'd say about 2%. The time gap is too long especially for this killer plus we have a guy who very well may have done it and who was probably not the Ripper. That doesn't mean that it's not an interesting case in its own right though.

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  • Bulldog
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    Originally posted by Hellrider View Post
    found it kinda strange that nobody opened this thread yet, for it's mandatory in my eyes..
    This topic has been the subject of several threads in the past. Perhaps you aren't aware that Casebook's server crashed a month or so ago, wiping out all of the message board contents.

    I think that it would be safe to say that while some people are convinced that she was a Ripper victim, most Ripperologists dismiss the idea.

    Bulldog

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  • Dan Norder
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    Two years is by no means a large leap of time as far as serial killers go... and it's only a gap of two years if there were no killings in between, which we certainly don't know is the case. There was more than one dead woman found in London between Kelly and Coles that have been offered as potentially being the Ripper's work, and if he'd traveled during that time he might have had one or more elsewhere.

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  • Hellrider
    started a topic How likely is she to have been a Ripper victim?

    How likely is she to have been a Ripper victim?

    found it kinda strange that nobody opened this thread yet, for it's mandatory in my eyes..

    I tend to dismiss her from the list because the hiatus, the leap of time is just too big..more than 2 years..

    of course, the circumstances resemble the Ripper murders.

    The problem is that Whitechapel was a district of extreme violence, so if there is a possibility to have two murderers operating at the same time in the same neighborhood, then in Whitechapel! In other districts, it would be easier to name the Ripper as a suspect becuase normally chances of two murder cases/series in so close proximity are very slim..however, not here
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