Bank Holiday murders

[Tom_Wescott]

Debs, Tom,
Wasn't there some court case that a man charged Polly Nicholas (as part of a group of women) with robbing him in a low bar? As I recall the story, he had gotten off a ship, gone to a bar and she stole from him, or cheated him, or something?

It would have been discussed 4-5-maybe 6 years ago?

Hi Curious. Not that I'm aware of. If that happened I'd love to hear about it! Polly was arrested in Itchy Park in October of 1887 along with a number of others sleeping in the park. She was described as the worst of the bunch, which must have really been saying something.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[curious]

And who knows who else is the wrong one.

Kosminski, Cross, Druitt??

Debs, Tom,
Wasn't there some court case that a man charged Polly Nicholas (as part of a group of women) with robbing him in a low bar? As I recall the story, he had gotten off a ship, gone to a bar and she stole from him, or cheated him, or something?

It would have been discussed 4-5-maybe 6 years ago?

[drstrange169]

Wish me luck as you Wav me goodbye.

[Tom_Wescott]

Tiffs are better quality than jpegs!

Surely you gif!

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[GUT]

Tiffs are better quality than jpegs!

Stupid auto correct.

[drstrange169]

Tiffs are better quality than jpegs!

[GUT]

Nope, by no means just for tiffs.

[drstrange169]

Definitely not just "gentlemen". Since Tom mentioned it in his book I've came across a few sword stick incidents with native East Enders. This one happened at a familiar place.

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Craig, thank you for the kind words. For the record, not only gentlemen carried sword sticks at the time. They were rather common. I was surprised by that too but researched newspapers and other sources at the time. We can't be certain by any means, but I think a sword stick is the most likely explanation for the heart wound to Tabram and also the blood between the legs. If her killer was the Ripper, the pen knife and swordstick were afterwards abandoned for better weaponry.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Craig H]

I've just finished reading Tom's book "The Bank Holiday Murders".

An excellent book. Strong, research-based, introduced a number of new ideas.

It brings a fresh perspective. Some of the other Ripper books start to merge into one as they discuss the same evidence and issues. This one introduces some new ideas which I found interesting.

A real insight for me was the new evidence on Tabard's murder that showed it had more similarities to other Ripper murders. Also interesting to read that Pearl Poll's statements about seeing Tabram with soldiers may have been a lie. I had previously dismissed Tabram as a victim but this brings new thinking.

Also interesting to read how the bayonet wounds could have been from a stick knife, as used by a gentleman.

Would be good to discuss these new insights on the Tabram thread

All the best

Craig

[Tom_Wescott]

If you can't trust a book titled 'Jack the Ripper: A Love Story', then what can you trust?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[GUT]

Lord knows no one has every chased the wrong Mary Kelly. At least we can feel good about that.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Or the right one even

[Tom_Wescott]

Lord knows no one has every chased the wrong Mary Kelly. At least we can feel good about that.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[GUT]

No-one's ever chased the wrong Monty Druitt, have they, genealogically speaking, I mean? I quite miss the old arguments about Monty!

Not that I know of, but it took so long to find him who knows? So I tossed him into the mix.

Agreed there isn't much talk about him lately, which I've never understood, would love to know what Mac's Private Information was though.

[Rosella]

No-one's ever chased the wrong Monty Druitt, have they, genealogically speaking, I mean? I quite miss the old arguments about Monty!