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  • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    quite so but not a correct use of the word

    definition on wikipedia:
    "An apartment (in American English) or a flat (in British English) is a self-contained housing unit (a type of residential real estate) that occupies only part of a building."

    self-contained is normal taken to be Kitchen, Toilet and bathroom included,

    it was used, but it was not and is not common usage in UK.
    Yes, but Wikipedia was not around in 1888.

    However the word was applied in England a century ago was the correct use, at the time, whereas today we adopt a modernised application, and this is the application described in Wiki.

    Kelly's room was self contained, she had a bed, table, fire. Rooms (in fact houses of the time it was built) did not contain running water.

    By the way, slightly off-topic here but, does El-Amarna hold any significance for you?
    (interest, study, hobby?)
    Last edited by Wickerman; 11-28-2015, 02:50 PM.
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • Pierre

      you replied to Wickerman

      ""...Dr Phillips asked me not to force the door but to test the dogs if they were coming,.."
      Abberline, at the inquest"

      that is fair enough, but you go on to say

      The point is that there must have been a reason for the statement of Abberline at the inquest"

      that reason was to wait for the dogs, are you accusing Abberline of perjury?
      you continue

      " and that there ,are reasons to believe that this reason has to do with circumstances at this crime scene that the police did not want to share with the public."


      You appear to be saying the real reason was evidence they did not want to go public.
      my question once again is what support do you have for this belief?

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      • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
        Pierre

        you replied to Wickerman

        ""...Dr Phillips asked me not to force the door but to test the dogs if they were coming,.."
        Abberline, at the inquest"

        that is fair enough, but you go on to say

        The point is that there must have been a reason for the statement of Abberline at the inquest"

        that reason was to wait for the dogs, are you accusing Abberline of perjury?

        This is not a trial, we only discuss historical problems here!

        you continue

        " and that there ,are reasons to believe that this reason has to do with circumstances at this crime scene that the police did not want to share with the public."

        You appear to be saying the real reason was evidence they did not want to go public.
        my question once again is what support do you have for this belief?

        Why should this be controversial? I will not answer this question, sorry.
        Regards Pierre

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        • Originally posted by Pierre View Post

          26 Dorset Street.


          Regards Pierre
          Ah, thankyou, I had wondered if you had seen that photo.

          Yes, you notice how small those front windows are when compared with them next door at No. 27?

          What you see is later remodeling of the front to conform to how it was intended to be, but the windows being a later addition are smaller.
          Regards, Jon S.

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          • Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
            Ah, thankyou, I had wondered if you had seen that photo.

            Yes, you notice how small those front windows are when compared with them next door at No. 27?

            What you see is later remodeling of the front to conform to how it was intended to be, but the windows being a later addition are smaller.
            Is it? What is the source for that?

            (And when is "later"?)

            Regards Pierre

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            • i will give up on the Apartment bit, its not part of the evidence, just me being protective of British English.

              Yes it has a great significance for me, Egyptology is my first love, with a particular interest in the Amarna period.

              i started a trilogy back in the 90's, shall we call it a work in progress.
              Funnily enough i have a hidden tomb in tuts tomb, mine was under the sarcophagus, that was written in 1994.

              so the news the last few weeks, and today has shall we say put a smile on my face.

              regards

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              • Pierre,

                Has far as i am aware to tell an untruth while under oath at an inquest is perjury, and is a criminal offence, if i am wrong about this i will happily apologise.

                why will you not answer a simple question, it only requires a yes or no.
                its not offensive, it just asks if you have evidence that there was evidence that was not given.

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                • Pierre says

                  This is not a trial, we only discuss historical problems here!
                  Not sure who gave him power over what can and can't be discussed on these threads, and in my opinion (and others are free to disagree) legal issues are very much a part of this case, and when we are talking about he inquests even more so.
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • This is a costermongers barrow of the period.



                    So how would you get several of these into that front room without removing the front of the building?
                    Regards, Jon S.

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                    • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                      i will give up on the Apartment bit, its not part of the evidence, just me being protective of British English.

                      Yes it has a great significance for me, Egyptology is my first love, with a particular interest in the Amarna period.

                      i started a trilogy back in the 90's, shall we call it a work in progress.
                      Funnily enough i have a hidden tomb in tuts tomb, mine was under the sarcophagus, that was written in 1994.

                      so the news the last few weeks, and today has shall we say put a smile on my face.

                      regards
                      It is interesting news yes, but the assumption would imply the tomb was intended for Nefertiti in the first place which just doesn't seem credible to me, it is still too small for a royal tomb.
                      We'll have to see what steps are taken next to investigate the problem.

                      I am also very interested in Ancient Egypt, and archaeology the New Kingdom into the Iron Age.

                      i will give up on the Apartment bit, its not part of the evidence, just me being protective of British English.
                      Understandable, I am English too.
                      Regards, Jon S.

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                      • Wickerman,

                        off topic for last time,

                        could be much larger than we know at present, in addition it would be the right shape and size for a queens tomb. it could explain the kv63 tomb, which seems to contain too much in the way of burial materials for just Tut.
                        yes i gather the data will now be studied in Japan for about a month before deciding on the next step

                        best wishes

                        Steve

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                        • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                          Wickerman,

                          off topic for last time,

                          could be much larger than we know at present, in addition it would be the right shape and size for a queens tomb. it could explain the kv63 tomb, which seems to contain too much in the way of burial materials for just Tut.
                          yes i gather the data will now be studied in Japan for about a month before deciding on the next step

                          best wishes

                          Steve
                          Wifey is very excited too, Tut is one of her side interests. Australian Convict children and Tudor England are her first loves and formed he basis of her Honours Thesis and PhD.
                          G U T

                          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                          • Hi GUT

                            nice to find some nice people here that 3 of you now spoken to me about the Elamarna name and Egyptology. so refreshing to have a sensible conversation here

                            thanks

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                            • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                              Hi GUT

                              nice to find some nice people here that 3 of you now spoken to me about the Elamarna name and Egyptology. so refreshing to have a sensible conversation here

                              thanks
                              My knowledge only comes from HER.
                              G U T

                              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                              • .

                                Maybe the third time asking will be the lucky time to get an answer.

                                Pierre, please explain how the arterial spray of blood on the wall/door came to be there under the circumstances you are presenting?

                                At this time it appears you are trying to say that the killer entered through the "secret door", which means the bed either wasn't in front of the door or that he moved the bed to get in. Then once he is in the room, he then moves the bed against the door and cuts her throat, producing the arterial spray. Then he moves the bed against the OTHER door to barricade it.

                                If this is in fact your scenario...what in the world is Mary doing up until the time he cuts her?

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