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  • Lewis C
    Inspector
    • Dec 2022
    • 1200

    #16
    Hi RD,

    The man that Macnaghten said was unlikely to be the Ripper, Thomas Cutbush, was British, not American.

    Before the Swanson marginalia was known, Martin Fido concluded that Anderson's suspect was the same man that Macnaghten was calling Kosminski. That being the case, I doubt that Swanson's mentioning of Kosminski was a random choice.

    However, I'll agree that I'm uneasy with Anderson saying "The case has been solved, but I won't say who did it." If the solution of the case isn't accessible to the public, then for the public, the case hasn't been solved. The case may have been solved in Anderson's mind, and Swanson's mind, but even the police as a whole weren't on board. Macnaghten knew about Kosminski, but thought that Druitt was a better suspect. Abberline thought that Chapman was the best suspect. Littlefield's suspect was Tumblety.

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    • The Rookie Detective
      Chief Inspector
      • Apr 2019
      • 1985

      #17
      Originally posted by Lewis C View Post
      Hi RD,

      The man that Macnaghten said was unlikely to be the Ripper, Thomas Cutbush, was British, not American.

      Before the Swanson marginalia was known, Martin Fido concluded that Anderson's suspect was the same man that Macnaghten was calling Kosminski. That being the case, I doubt that Swanson's mentioning of Kosminski was a random choice.

      However, I'll agree that I'm uneasy with Anderson saying "The case has been solved, but I won't say who did it." If the solution of the case isn't accessible to the public, then for the public, the case hasn't been solved. The case may have been solved in Anderson's mind, and Swanson's mind, but even the police as a whole weren't on board. Macnaghten knew about Kosminski, but thought that Druitt was a better suspect. Abberline thought that Chapman was the best suspect. Littlefield's suspect was Tumblety.
      Ah yes, a school boy blunder from me.

      A rookie mistake as it were.

      I have been informed via DM of my error by another forum member, and am very grateful for being corrected.

      Having thought about it, I did know though Cutbush was English, but for some reason I often get his nationality mixed up with Tumblety.
      I'm not sure why, but I've made that same mistake more than once before.

      Of course, if Tumblety isn't American either, then it's clear I haven't got a clue! Haha!

      "Great minds, don't think alike"

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      • Lewis C
        Inspector
        • Dec 2022
        • 1200

        #18
        Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post

        Ah yes, a school boy blunder from me.

        A rookie mistake as it were.

        I have been informed via DM of my error by another forum member, and am very grateful for being corrected.

        Having thought about it, I did know though Cutbush was English, but for some reason I often get his nationality mixed up with Tumblety.
        I'm not sure why, but I've made that same mistake more than once before.

        Of course, if Tumblety isn't American either, then it's clear I haven't got a clue! Haha!
        I'm fine with calling Tumblety an American. He was born in Ireland, but moved to the US as a young child, and lived there most of his life.

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        • The Rookie Detective
          Chief Inspector
          • Apr 2019
          • 1985

          #19
          Originally posted by Lewis C View Post

          I'm fine with calling Tumblety an American. He was born in Ireland, but moved to the US as a young child, and lived there most of his life.
          Always thought he was born state-side!

          Haha!


          I do know stuff...


          honestly...



          haha!


          *sips some tea.
          "Great minds, don't think alike"

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          • Scott Nelson
            Superintendent
            • Feb 2008
            • 2461

            #20
            Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post

            Anderson - Ultimately failed in his task to catch the Ripper, but when given an opportunity to have his say through his memoirs, opted for ambiguity over honesty. He portrays a man who knew it all, but belittles the case by basically saying that despite knowing the killer, it really wasn't worth the time of day actually bothering to name the killer because the public wouldn't be interested and it wouldn't serve any purpose after all that time.
            But by taking this stance, what he's really doing is trying to cover for the fact that he didn't have a clue who the Ripper was. A man in such a high ranking role would never admit to losing or failing miserably.
            If you read Anderson carefully, he is saying that they did catch the Ripper, but for legal reasons they couldn't charge him. I think it's because they lacked hard evidence coupled with threats from the suspect's family, possible religious strife and a failed identification proceeding.

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