MJK1 and MJK3

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  • Observer
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Mar 2008
    • 3188

    #601
    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    Simple. We are told he kept " the victim photographs under lock and key in his desk"

    He would know the difference between one single photo of MjK and a wholf set of 6 or 8 or more (RE his words in the MM)

    Phil
    How do you know he got the full compliment of the photographs which were taken that day?

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    • Amanda Sumner
      Detective
      • Oct 2013
      • 303

      #602
      Originally posted by Observer View Post
      How do you know he got the full compliment of the photographs which were taken that day?
      Do you know that he didn't?

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      • GUT
        Commissioner
        • Jan 2014
        • 7841

        #603
        What Macnaghten said was:

        A photo was taken of the woman, as she was found lying on the bed, without seeing which it is impossible to imagine the awful mutilation.
        This could mean that there was one photo [out of a number of photographs taken that day] that had to be seen to appreciate the full horror of the event.

        As opposed to only one photograph having been taken on the day.
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • Observer
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Mar 2008
          • 3188

          #604
          Yes I do because we have MJK3, and a contemporary newspaper report which states that several images were taken of the remains that day. How about the reporter interviewing the photographer, still no comment from you respecting that aspect.

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          • Observer
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Mar 2008
            • 3188

            #605
            Originally posted by GUT View Post
            What Macnaghten said was:



            This could mean that there was one photo [out of a number of photographs taken that day] that had to be seen to appreciate the full horror of the event.

            As opposed to only one photograph having been taken on the day.
            It sure could Gut

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            • Amanda Sumner
              Detective
              • Oct 2013
              • 303

              #606
              Originally posted by GUT View Post
              What Macnaghten said was:



              This could mean that there was one photo [out of a number of photographs taken that day] that had to be seen to appreciate the full horror of the event.

              As opposed to only one photograph having been taken on the day.
              It could. Although it is strange, is it not, that only one was reported missing?

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              • Amanda Sumner
                Detective
                • Oct 2013
                • 303

                #607
                Originally posted by Observer View Post
                Yes I do because we have MJK3, and a contemporary newspaper report which states that several images were taken of the remains that day. How about the reporter interviewing the photographer, still no comment from you respecting that aspect.
                Do you have access to the printed interview?
                I would be very interested in that.
                Suggesting that the photographer was interviewed is merely conjecture without proof that the newspapers did get information from him.
                Last edited by Amanda Sumner; 08-28-2014, 06:17 PM.

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                • Observer
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 3188

                  #608
                  Originally posted by Amanda Sumner View Post
                  It could. Although it is strange, is it not, that only one was reported missing?
                  Could you explain yourself here, I don't understand your meaning.

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                  • Observer
                    Assistant Commissioner
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 3188

                    #609
                    Originally posted by Amanda Sumner View Post
                    Do you have access to the printed interview?
                    I would be very interested in that.
                    The printed interview? I asked you a straight question. Do you think it's possible that the reason the reporter knew that there were several photographs taken of the remains was down to the fact that he interviewed the photographer? Yes, or no?

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                    • GUT
                      Commissioner
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7841

                      #610
                      Originally posted by Amanda Sumner View Post
                      It could. Although it is strange, is it not, that only one was reported missing?
                      I am not too sure what is meant, but what if at the time of writing only one was missing?
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • Amanda Sumner
                        Detective
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 303

                        #611
                        Originally posted by Observer View Post
                        The printed interview? I asked you a straight question. Do you think it's possible that the reason the reporter knew that there were several photographs taken of the remains was down to the fact that he interviewed the photographer? Yes, or no?
                        I thought I had answered it. Of course it's possible. Does not make it fact though, does it? Anything is possible but it's proof we need.

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                        • Amanda Sumner
                          Detective
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 303

                          #612
                          Originally posted by Observer View Post
                          Could you explain yourself here, I don't understand your meaning.
                          The original of MJK1 went missing. As far as I'm aware other photos of Mary were not ever reported missing.

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                          • Observer
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 3188

                            #613
                            Originally posted by Amanda Sumner View Post
                            I thought I had answered it. Of course it's possible. Does not make it fact though, does it? Anything is possible but it's proof we need.
                            No you did not. At least you now admit that it is possible. As Gary has also pointed out newspaper reporters received inside information from certain police officers, the reporter could have gleaned the information that more than one photograph was taken thus.

                            Let me ask you a question. Where do you think the reporter got his information from when he informed his readers that more than one photo was taken of the remains? Or do you think he just made it up?
                            Last edited by Observer; 08-28-2014, 06:45 PM.

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                            • Observer
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 3188

                              #614
                              Originally posted by Amanda Sumner View Post
                              The original of MJK1 went missing. As far as I'm aware other photos of Mary were not ever reported missing.
                              Why would they be? You've lost me here

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                              • Phil Carter
                                Commissioner
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 4270

                                #615
                                Originally posted by Observer View Post
                                How do you know he got the full compliment of the photographs which were taken that day?
                                I take his word for it.

                                What factual evidence have you to say that specifically SIR MM didnt have them? Any written word of his? None. Its called first hand account which tops 2nd hand odd newspaper reports any day.
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