MJK1 & MJK3 don't tally!

[Wickerman]

Thanks, yes, I do consider what Bond wrote, but then we have to ask, at what stage of the post mortem was this photo taken?

If, as you say, the right arm is not in view here, then where is it?

There is nothing to obscure the arm, the abdomen has been cut away. Bond does not say it is lying tight down the side of the body (ie; out of view), it is "slightly abducted from the body".

Where is it?

Regards, Jon S.

[RivkahChaya]

We had a female tv chef/cook here years ago called Fanny Craddock!

Did the name mean that then? I saw a friend's mother's high school year book, and there was a guy named "Dick Head." I sort of hope he didn't live long enough to learn what that eventually came to mean. I also hope his real name was "Richard," just in case there were any juniors.

Does anyone think this portion circled in red is her right hand?

It looks like the webbed, front flipper (or whatever) of the Creature from the Black Lagoon. Only daintier, and more feminine.

There's actually a surgical technique (new) for women who are donating a kidney as live donors, where the kidney is removed through the vaginal wall, so there's, y'know, juxtaposition. I'm not sure what my point is, except that there's such a mess, you can't really tell what the, well, goal was. Is it possible her pelvis was pulled apart? There's a fissure that has to pull apart to deliver a baby, so in a young woman, I suppose it's possible.

OK. I'm really creeped out now. I should not post to a JTR site after nine pm, EST. DH and the boychik are both in bed. I'm going to watch the "I have a dream" speech I DVR'd earlier, and go to bed as well.

[richardh]

Some years ago I had reason to show the missus the original photo, Stewart had kindly sent me a package of photo's. She felt quite certain the bed was a three-quarter, a little larger than a single but smaller than a double.

Regards, Jon S.

Yes, maybe, like this one which is 4' x 6'3"...



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[RivkahChaya]

Hmmm. I just measured, and 4'x6'+ (it happens to be 6'3) is what we call a double in the US (you can buy "extended doubles" if you are tall). It's what our futon is when opened. Our bed is "queen-sized," and is 5'x6.5' (6'6). There's also something called "full-sized," which I always thought was another word for "double," but the sheets that I have that are double are a little big, sideways, for the futon, so "full-sized" may be a short queen-sized. My son's "twin" is 3.25' (3'3)x6.25' (6'3). You can get mattresses that are usually described as "cot," which are about the size of Army bunks, and are about 2.25' (2'3)x6.25' (6'3). There're also crib-sized mattresses, which is a standard size, and is about the same width as "cot," but about 18" shorter.

"Cot" in the US doesn't mean a baby's bed; it means a folding bed, like the kind you might take camping, or that might be used in barracks. My mother still has trouble with the word "futon," and calls our futon chair (which is where I got the 2.25'x6.25') a "cot" when it is unfolded.

Just to clarify terms. There's 2.54 cm to an inch, or slightly over 30 to a foot.

[Wickerman]

Thankyou Richard, Rivkah.

Yes, a single was about the width of an average outside door, about 36" wide.
The bed in the photo (Kelly) looks wider than an average door, but not anything near enough to be a double size (English).
Three-quarter (48"w) is a good approximation seeing as we have no definitive data.

Regards, Jon S.

[RivkahChaya]

I wish a single (twin) was the same as an outside door. We would have so much trouble getting them in, and it wouldn't be so much trouble getting wheelchairs in houses. 'Course, there's still the damn ramp problem, but getting a ramp is easier than widening a doorway.

Do you typically measure your mattresses in feet still? Or did you just give feet on the Kelly mattress because feet would have been used in the 1880s? I know the UK has for the most part gone metric, but there are still a few things non-standard measures are used for-- I still hear people's weights given in stones, which translated exactly to what the US calls a "standard" measure (ie, inches, feet, yards; ounces, pounds; pints, gallons), and not metric. Anyone in the US who does college prep science in high school, auto mechanics, computers, or is in the military, learns metrics, though. Also, every American knows what two liters is.

[richardh]

Thankyou Richard, Rivkah.

Yes, a single was about the width of an average outside door, about 36" wide.
The bed in the photo (Kelly) looks wider than an average door, but not anything near enough to be a double size (English).
Three-quarter (48"w) is a good approximation seeing as we have no definitive data.

Regards, Jon S.

I concur

[Wickerman]

Do you typically measure your mattresses in feet still? Or did you just give feet on the Kelly mattress because feet would have been used in the 1880s? I know the UK has for the most part gone metric, but there are still a few things non-standard measures are used for-- I still hear people's weights given in stones, which translated exactly to what the US calls a "standard" measure (ie, inches, feet, yards; ounces, pounds; pints, gallons), and not metric. Anyone in the US who does college prep science in high school, auto mechanics, computers, or is in the military, learns metrics, though. Also, every American knows what two liters is.

Some of us are possibly classed as diehards, I hate using metric. I was born and raised on Imperial and used it most of my adult life.
I worked for Westinghouse, in the Engineering Dept and the standard was Imperial, but because we were an American company in Canada our technical drawings had to provide metric along with the Imperial.

I just can't think in metric...
I guess I'm a dinosaur

Regards, Jon S.

[Sally]

In the UK, I think matressess (and beds) are still pretty much measured in feet and inches. We haven't ever really got with the whole metric thing here. Best we can manage is a curious hybrid.

[MajorParts]

Some of the people I had to deal with at work used to really annoy me with measurements! For many years I was a CAD programmer, taking technical drawings from paper and recreating them on a computer. Our CAD systems were always set up for mm, so drawings dimensioned in mm's were ideal.
Some customers would supply drawings that were in decimal inches, which isn't so bad because you treat the numbers as mm's then scale the whole lot by x 25.4
I hated stuff that was in what I call fractional inches (ie, 5 9/16ths)
It was surprising though, how many customers used multiple ways on the same dimension, like <-- 5" 13mm -->

Anyway, how is the 3D scene coming along?

[RivkahChaya]

Some of us are possibly classed as diehards, I hate using metric. I was born and raised on Imperial and used it most of my adult life.

I was one of those American kids in the 1970s who was in the experiment to switch the US to metric. They gave us endless conversion problems, and we weren't allowed to use calculators. We were 8, 9, 10 years old, and doing pages of really boring computation. It made us hate the metric system, and really didn't give us much of a sense of it. It would have been much better if we'd just been given metric rulers and scales, and been told to go around and measure things, and then after a while, been given questions like "A cat weighs about A) 10g; B) 4kg; C) 8kg."

Like I said, the one metric measure every American knows is 2 liters. We all know what a 2-liter container looks like, and what hefting 2 liters feels like, because soft drink companies have been selling their products in 2-liter bottles for years-- for at least a generation, maybe longer. They probably started doing it just because it sounds too indulgent, somehow, to buy a half-gallon of Coke, and 64 ounces sounds pretty big too, but "2 liters" sounds hip. At first, no one really know what it was, and the bottle didn't look at all like a half-gallon milk jug. Now, everyone is used to it, and no one thinks twice about getting a half-dozen of them for a weekend.

[Stephen Thomas]

What do you call men whose full name is Randolph?

Nobody born in the UK gets to be called Randolph.

[Michael W Richards]

Hi all,

Some are asking where the right hand can be seen, and perhaps these images can help a bit.

This is a section of MJK1, the photo itself is 480kb and too large a file to upload. You can see the hand in the center of the picture.

[RivkahChaya]

Nobody born in the UK gets to be called Randolph.

Randolph Churchill?

[MajorParts]

ooooh yessss

sorry