is this MJK alive???

[Mary_Jane_Kelly]

mary kelly was married to a mr. davies, so wouldnt she have used his name as an alias from time to time. afterall mary used alias alot.
i came across this photograph of a mary davies, and ill also post a pic of mary kelly's mutilated face.
u see for yourself.....
what do you think??

[The Grave Maurice]

Well, I think....not. Nice photo, though.

[Mary_Jane_Kelly]

this mary davies also used the alias 'mary kelly' around 1888. seen as though MJK would be mary davies on her records because of her marrige, she would use aliases.
is this just a coincidence, two mary kelly's with similiar faces? or have i just found our elusive MJK?????

---MJK---

[Mary_Jane_Kelly]

notice the squarish shape of all 3 heads, and notice the dimple in all 3 chins! and the high cheeckbones.......

---MJK---

[Dave O]

Thanks for posting. That's a nice mug shot there, but according to the BBC's website, this person was prosecuted under aliases going into 1890, so I don't think she could be the dead person in the crime scene photograph.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/victorian_mugshots_gallery_03.shtml

Anybody know if the above photograph is included in Manchester... The Sinister Side by Steve Jones (Wicked Publications, 1997)? The article is credited to Steve Jones, and it's listed in the "find out more" link at the bottom of the page. Sounds like a good book.

[Christine]

Well, based on this link, which seems to be where the image comes from, this woman has an established history in Manchester both before and after the killings. This doesn't really fit with our Kelly's sketchy history in London from 1884 to her death in 1888. The site gives some references; If you can visit the museums named or find the books locally, I imagine you can get more by contacting the site author.

Hi Dave O, bit of cross posting there.

[Celesta]

She looks like Blavatsky.

Thanks Dave O for the quick provenance. I had to erase my post complaining about the lack of provenance. I knew she looked familiar. I've trawled that website a number of times.

It's best to post the source of a picture or item. These cases are confusing enough as they are.

[Mary_Jane_Kelly]

well maby mary kelly was'nt the body found in 13 millers court.......maby it was one of the many prostitutes who frequented mary's room? maby we are looking at our mary here, moved from london to manchester and changed her alias? she does look like the descriptions given of mary kelly.
who knows........

---MJK---

[Mary_Jane_Kelly]

Thanks for posting. That's a nice mug shot there, but according to the BBC's website, this person was prosecuted under aliases going into 1890, so I don't think she could be the dead person in the crime scene photograph.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/victorian_mugshots_gallery_03.shtml

Anybody know if the above photograph is included in Manchester... The Sinister Side by Steve Jones (Wicked Publications, 1997)? The article is credited to Steve Jones, and it's listed in the "find out more" link at the bottom of the page. Sounds like a good book.

i havnt read the ...sinister side book, but i do have when the lights whent down by wicked productions, i think she is in that book though.....


---MJK---

[Sam Flynn]

That's rather a wispy head of hair she has. I don't think it's either curly/wavy or thick enough to have been the Mary Kelly of Miller's Court.

[Mary_Jane_Kelly]

That's rather a wispy head of hair she has. I don't think it's either curly/wavy or thick enough to have been the Mary Kelly of Miller's Court.

it is hard to tell what type of hair she has because she has it tied up....

---MJK---

[Sam Flynn]

it is hard to tell what type of hair she has because she has it tied up....

If you're referring to the photograph, that's thin hair alright - almost what used to be called "flyaway" in the hairspray ads. It ain't the luxurious locks of the woman in the Miller's Court picture at any rate.

[m_w_r]

well maby mary kelly was'nt the body found in 13 millers court

In which case, your previous point about the dimples in the chins - a feature which, you thought, linked the three images, and suggested that they might all represent the same individual - hardly applies any more, does it?

Regards,

Mark

[celee]

mary kelly was married to a mr. davies, so wouldnt she have used his name as an alias from time to time. afterall mary used alias alot.
i came across this photograph of a mary davies, and ill also post a pic of mary kelly's mutilated face.
u see for yourself.....
what do you think??

Simply put, No, it is not Mary Kelly. Mary Kelly died November 9th 1888 between three and four in the morning.

Your friend, Brad

[George Hutchinson]

As soon as the word 'maybe' comes into play, you're living in a house built on sand.

On a different tack, I've got all of Steve's books and though some of the text isn't over-detailed they're all highly recommended. Profusely illustrated with photographs of the poor and criminal of the LVP.

PHILIP