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  • Sam Flynn
    Casebook Supporter
    • Feb 2008
    • 13324

    #61
    Originally posted by mike74 View Post
    Blood does not fall like that and form letters!!
    Yes it does, Mike - and I've explained how. Rather, I've explained how a viscous liquid might form various shapes that might suggest letters. Try jetting a stream of washing-up liquid onto a window, and see the "M" and "U" shapes (etc) appear before your eyes. You're unlikely to see any "F"s, because the glass, being smooth, isn't conducive to the liquid "bleeding" into any horizontal cracks.
    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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    • mike74
      Cadet
      • Aug 2008
      • 36

      #62
      So if it doesnt produce the letter F how do you explain it on the wall?

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      • Fisherman
        Cadet
        • Feb 2008
        • 23676

        #63
        Because, Mike, Mary Kellys wall was not made of glass. Therefore it DID have horisontal cracks and cavities that followed the underlying material. Two such cracks or cavities made up the two parallel, horizontal bars of that "F", whereas there need not be any vertical cavity behind the third, vertical, bar, since gravity would have taken care of that one.
        It´s all in Sams answer, Mike, once you give it a more thorough read.

        The best!
        Fisherman

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        • mike74
          Cadet
          • Aug 2008
          • 36

          #64
          People will always believe something is there and others will discount it.
          If you want something to stay a mystery or dismiss a theory of course you will say it's not there.
          There are believers and disbelievers, thats why this would never be solved in a million years!

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          • j.r-ahde
            Inspector
            • Feb 2008
            • 1148

            #65
            Hello Mike!

            This debate is like saying, that the one shooting Kennedy had carved "L.H.O." on the Carcano in 1963...

            Had there been any letter formations as clear as people indicate with "F" and "M" (and some even "H"), most obviously there would be contemporary notes about it!

            All the best
            Jukka
            "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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            • Fisherman
              Cadet
              • Feb 2008
              • 23676

              #66
              Just on a side note, Mike: "It" is there, alright - the thing is that "it" in all probability is nothing but the result of blood spurting onto the wall. It´s much the same as lying on your back on a summers day, looking at the clouds and interpreting them as all sorts of things.

              All the best,

              Fisherman

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              • Sam Flynn
                Casebook Supporter
                • Feb 2008
                • 13324

                #67
                Originally posted by mike74 View Post
                If you want something to stay a mystery or dismiss a theory of course you will say it's not there.
                There are believers and disbelievers, thats why this would never be solved in a million years!
                It's not quite a matter of "belief and disbelief", Mike. I can see an apparent "FM" in some versions of the photograph, sure, but I know there are natural means by which such a phenomenon, and the interpretation of it, might come about. In that very real sense, I have no desire for it to remain a mystery - because I have an explanation for it. An explanation which, furthermore, ties in rather well with eyewitness observations at the time (viz., the blood having struck, in a number of separate splashes, the wall to the right of the corpse). The perpetuation of the mystery, inasmuch as it exists, is rather more the preserve of those who believe - or want to believe - that it's a message from the killer.
                Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                • The Good Michael
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3773

                  #68
                  Gareth,

                  What about the grilled cheese sandwich whose toasted area looked like Jesus? Try and explain that away, naysayer!

                  A Believer
                  huh?

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                  • Sam Flynn
                    Casebook Supporter
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 13324

                    #69
                    Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
                    What about the grilled cheese sandwich whose toasted area looked like Jesus? Try and explain that away, naysayer
                    They obviously used Swiss cheese - of the holey variety.
                    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                    • The Good Michael
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3773

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                      They obviously used Swiss cheese - of the holey variety.
                      Damn!

                      Mike
                      huh?

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                      • Tom_Wescott
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 6996

                        #71
                        Perry "Mike" Mason, Mike Covell, the Good Michael, Mike74...

                        There simply are not enough people named Mike posting on the Casebook these days.

                        Yours truly,

                        Mike Wescott

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                        • Bailey
                          Detective
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 290

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
                          Just on a side note, Mike: "It" is there, alright - the thing is that "it" in all probability is nothing but the result of blood spurting onto the wall.
                          Ah, but what if, as per the argument many folks make re the GSG, it was already there, Sir Jim saw it and decided, "That'll do me!" He didn't put it there, but claimed it anyhoo.

                          Cheers,

                          "Mike" Bailey

                          (Early morning, sick as a dog and in odd humour)
                          Bailey
                          Wellington, New Zealand
                          hoodoo@xtra.co.nz
                          www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsephotographic/

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                          • j.r-ahde
                            Inspector
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1148

                            #73
                            Hello Tom!

                            Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                            There simply are not enough people named Mike posting on the Casebook these days.

                            Yours truly,

                            Mike Wescott
                            I wonder, what Michael Moore would make of it!

                            All the best
                            Jukka "Mike" J.R-ahde
                            "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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                            • Fisherman
                              Cadet
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 23676

                              #74
                              Bailey writes:

                              "...and in odd humour"

                              A good thing that I read it all through before answering, Bailey!

                              The best!
                              Fisherman

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                              • Fisherman
                                Cadet
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 23676

                                #75
                                Sam Flynn writes:

                                "They obviously used Swiss cheese - of the holey variety."

                                Is there not a warning flag or something that you could mark these posts of yours with, Sam?

                                The best!

                                Fisherman

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