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Hello, I have been lurking on the forum for the last couple of months and have now had my membership confirmed so am diving in with my first post here.
While I've read through many threads it's - of course - been impossible to read every post so please forgive me if I'm asking something that has already been discussed or, worse, terribly obvious to everyone else but me.
OK, so I've had a distant fascination with the JTR case for years - especially being intrigued by Mary Kelly's murder - but hadn't really delved into it with any great depth. I've had my own theory about the circumstances of Mary's demise for a while (it's only quite recently that I've actually been able to really study the photo of her on the bed at Miller's Court as before I could only really stomach a brief glimpse before looking away if it ever appeared on a documentary or in a book I've flicked through) but reading some more concerted reading has raised some questions I hadn't previously considered.
The door lock.
Is it known what kind of door lock it was? Did it need a key to lock/open on both sides or just from the outside? Was it able to open without a key from the inside? Did it automatically lock upon closing the door?
I ask this as I've read about Mary or others putting their hand through the broken window around the corner and reaching to the lock to open the door toget into the room. But looking at the photograph of 13 Miller's Court it seems a fair distance for an arm to reach through and unlock the latch, especially at that angle and pressed against a sharp broken glass. If the lock required a key to unlock it from the inside then that would surely cause further kurfuffle.
If it was common knowledge that putting a hand through the window was a way to open the door, why did Bowyer, McCarthy or the police apparently not attempt to do this inbetween the discovery of the body and the breaking down of the door (unless I've missed this particular detail)?
The partition door.
Is it known if the door between Mary's room and the rest of the house facing Dorset Street was able to be opened on either side?
Time of death.
The other canonical victims were found almost immediately or relatively soon after they were killed, but Mary was concluded to have been in situ for some time before her body was discovered. I've looked but so far have not seen any reference to a higher the usual presence of flies either about the body, the inner organs left on the table, the bed or the room in general. Flies would normally start to gather around a body within hours of death and leave larvae on the remains. Are there any reports of flies in and around the room or larvae being found on Mary's remains? If she was killed between 3-4am and discovered around 10:45am that's plenty of time for flies and other insects to gather in the room and around Mary's remains and leave their larvae. As they do this within a certain time frame this could give a more accurate estimate for Mary's time of death.
Any thoughts on these?
While I've read through many threads it's - of course - been impossible to read every post so please forgive me if I'm asking something that has already been discussed or, worse, terribly obvious to everyone else but me.
OK, so I've had a distant fascination with the JTR case for years - especially being intrigued by Mary Kelly's murder - but hadn't really delved into it with any great depth. I've had my own theory about the circumstances of Mary's demise for a while (it's only quite recently that I've actually been able to really study the photo of her on the bed at Miller's Court as before I could only really stomach a brief glimpse before looking away if it ever appeared on a documentary or in a book I've flicked through) but reading some more concerted reading has raised some questions I hadn't previously considered.
The door lock.
Is it known what kind of door lock it was? Did it need a key to lock/open on both sides or just from the outside? Was it able to open without a key from the inside? Did it automatically lock upon closing the door?
I ask this as I've read about Mary or others putting their hand through the broken window around the corner and reaching to the lock to open the door toget into the room. But looking at the photograph of 13 Miller's Court it seems a fair distance for an arm to reach through and unlock the latch, especially at that angle and pressed against a sharp broken glass. If the lock required a key to unlock it from the inside then that would surely cause further kurfuffle.
If it was common knowledge that putting a hand through the window was a way to open the door, why did Bowyer, McCarthy or the police apparently not attempt to do this inbetween the discovery of the body and the breaking down of the door (unless I've missed this particular detail)?
The partition door.
Is it known if the door between Mary's room and the rest of the house facing Dorset Street was able to be opened on either side?
Time of death.
The other canonical victims were found almost immediately or relatively soon after they were killed, but Mary was concluded to have been in situ for some time before her body was discovered. I've looked but so far have not seen any reference to a higher the usual presence of flies either about the body, the inner organs left on the table, the bed or the room in general. Flies would normally start to gather around a body within hours of death and leave larvae on the remains. Are there any reports of flies in and around the room or larvae being found on Mary's remains? If she was killed between 3-4am and discovered around 10:45am that's plenty of time for flies and other insects to gather in the room and around Mary's remains and leave their larvae. As they do this within a certain time frame this could give a more accurate estimate for Mary's time of death.
Any thoughts on these?
) was buried. The investigating police officer, Bill Bass, concluded that death had occurred a couple of months earlier, and that the corpse must have been dumped on the site lately.
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