Did the 5 canonical victims know each other?

[Cap'n Jack]

And there was me, Sam, thinking that your de facto was flapping in the ill wind of an Ipswich alleyway.

[Mr.Hyde]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche

[Mr.Hyde]

Way off post-however this is getting as funny as "Harry" and "The Rope".
Sam,you are a mental midget.
A legend in your own tea break.

[perrymason]

Ok.....the mudslides are starting....change of pace... and thread related, sort of.

Did anyone read Jack Knife last year? It was promoted on the site here a bit, and its a great piece of fiction that paints the Ripper as a time traveler, gone back to collapse the economy of England and rise to power through large gold holdings. I dont recall the author, and Ive got it in a box in storage I believe, but Ill see if I can get her name.

My point is ...she has a scene in the book where all 5 Canonicals meet at the Ten Bells for drinks. Another time traveler after this Jacky fella sits with them.....knowing how each of them dies cause shes read the stories....and for a few minutes has the opportunity to talk with all 5 of Jacks Victims as Unfortunate women in the LVP...and also historical figures.

That scene was magic for me....the thought of actually meeting them as humans, and coupled with the knowledge of their place in history before it had happened.

Its a very romantic notion, and one that for me made me think a little more about individual people rather than cumulative victims.

Its a great read...two thumbs up for a fun adventure.

Best regards all.

[Sam Flynn]

Ok.....the mudslides are starting...

Indeed, Mike. It's usually the outcome of muddy thinking, or so I've found.

[Mr.Hyde]

http://www.jackknifethebook.com/reviews.html

[perrymason]

http://www.jackknifethebook.com/reviews.html

Nicely done Old Sod....Im assuming you enjoyed it as well?

One other thing I did like.....the suggestion that if Jack had killed a man during that period we would never have known it. Nor would they have.

Cheers.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Nicely done Old Sod....Im assuming you enjoyed it as well?

One other thing I did like.....the suggestion that if Jack had killed a man during that period we would never have known it. Nor would they have.

Cheers.

Haven't read it.Just ordered it.Haven't read Sci Fi for yonks.Thanks.
Never know what is in that book.
Some researchers have a term-"Library Angels".You go into a library looking for something and can't find it.Come out with a book anyway-turns out to be what you were after.
Reminds me of a Rolling Stones song.

"All knowledge is self knowledge"-Bruce Lee.

[Mr.Hyde]

JTR may have murdered one student that he mentored.

Think Abberline was credited with mentioning that.Do not pursue me on that-off the top of my head.8.20 am here.

[perrymason]

JTR may have murdered one student that he mentored.

Think Abberline was credited with mentioning that.Do not pursue me on that-off the top of my head.8.20 am here.

You know there was a murder near Bradford during the Fall of Terror, a young boy was cut in half, stuffed in a barrel and had his shoes stuck in his chest. There were Ripper letters that threatened the killing of a child.

It seemed particularly brutal, and Im guessing in not a highly populated area at that time. I think its largely farm country, or was then, wasnt it?

I do think that type of crime, and the Torso's, and a copycat murder like Alice, stabbing death like Marthas and the gang attacks adds up to plenty of unsavory types, in the area... co-existing. The East End didnt belong to Jack....he was just the most threatening. He was the only one aside from the Torso man that we can safely assume worked multiple times.

Best regards.

[DVV]

I am in a difficult position.
Firstly I'm a newbie and not taken seriously.

Hi Mr Hyde,
and no, that's simply false.
I've seen, and still see, a lot of newbies whose posts and thoughts are seriously discussed on these boards.
You certainly understand how difficult it is to discuss with someone who thinks he knows everything.

Amitiés,
David

[DVV]

"All knowledge is self knowledge"-Bruce Lee.

Hi again,
Have we authored all the books we've read?

Amitiés,
David

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Mr Hyde,
and no, that's simply false.
I've seen, and still see, a lot of newbies whose posts and thoughts are seriously discussed on these boards.

Indeed, Dave - and they're generally the ones who make polite contributions and/or make interesting observations based on the evidence. Those who exhibit a premature cockiness from Day One, making unsupported assertions to flog a pet theory, tend to fare less well - which is hardly surprising.

You certainly understand how difficult it is to discuss with someone who thinks he knows everything.

That's rather easier than it is to have a discussion with someone who acts as if they've solved the case based on little or no knowledge at all. When that "solution" shows a flagrant disregard for the facts, and is delivered in a belligerent or sarcastic manner, even those with a little more knowledge about the case are apt to lose patience. Who can blame them?

[The Good Michael]

When that "solution" shows a flagrant disregard for the facts, and is delivered in a belligerent or sarcastic manner,

Gareth,

You passed up an opportunity to use "bellicose", but maybe next time?

Mike

[Sam Flynn]

You passed up an opportunity to use "bellicose", but maybe next time?

"Casus belli" = "corset"

A bit of trivia, Mike... you may know that in Herman Melville's novelette, Billy Budd, the name of Cpt Vere's ship is the Bellipotent. When Benjamin Britten came to write his opera of the story, he thought that the name of the ship sounded rather rude - the combination of "belly" and "potent" being too much for his delicate middle-class sensibilities. Instead, Britten and E.M. Forster (who wrote the libretto) chose to use Indomitable, which was Melville's name for the ship in an earlier version of the book.