Did the 5 canonical victims know each other?

[Mr.Hyde]

Yes,your Eminence!

[Sam Flynn]

Yes,your Eminence!

You'll go far.

[Mr.Hyde]

Yep.Aus$8-10 million screenplay.
Honestly reckon I know who JTR was.

[Jon Guy]

http://www.casebook.org/press_report.../18881110.html
Think that is what you are after.
Again-amongst my previous posts.

Thanks for the link, I had seen that newspaper story, thought you had something else.

Couldn`t see anything on Nichols and 35 Dorset St?

Interestingly, according to Sugden, Kelly lived down Paternoster Row, which may be where the story of 35 Dorset St comes from as the entrance to Paternoster Row was next to Crossinghams.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Thanks for the link, I had seen that newspaper story, thought you had something else.

Couldn`t see anything on Nichols and 35 Dorset St?

Interestingly, according to Sugden, Kelly lived down Paternoster Row, which may be where the story of 35 Dorset St comes from as the entrance to Paternoster Row was next to Crossinghams.

http://www.casebook.org/victims/polly.html

Sorry about that-5am here,now.Check out the death certificate.
If you cross reference all 5 CVs and where they lived you will have a fair picture of what I mean.Add in where they drank,etc.

[Cap'n Jack]

I have yet to see any good or valid reason why all of the victims were not known to each other, on a nodding basis where names were known.
I think that concept to be without flaw.
They shared a trade, they lived in the same small area, they drank in the same pubs... and no doubt they served the same customers.
But I fail in regard to a customer blackmailing a prostitute.
Surely it always happens the other way around?

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

I have yet to see any good or valid reason why all of the victims were not known to each other, on a nodding basis where names were known.
I think that concept to be without flaw.
They shared a trade, they lived in the same small area, they drank in the same pubs... and no doubt they served the same customers.
But I fail in regard to a customer blackmailing a prostitute.
Surely it always happens the other way around?

Yep!JTR was being blackmailed.Not the other way round.
Think you got sidetracked by "His Eminence".

[Roy Corduroy]

Again-amongst my previous posts.

Hi Mr. Hyde,

Yes I have been reading your posts, including back on the Prostitutes 1881 thread where you posit Mary Kelly was a local woman. Your solution seems to do with the victims knowing each other and their killer, if I read between the lines correctly. Sort of an interwoven situation.

You drop a little bit here, a little bit there. Like feeding birds. Why not start a big post and lay out your scenario to the inth degree? Let the hammer down.

Roy

[c.d.]

Hi Mr. Hyde,

If Jack was being blackmailed by prostitutes who allegedly knew his indentity, it would seem to imply that Jack was capable of paying them more money than they could get by turning him in and claiming the reward money. Would this not be true?

c.d.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Mr Hyde,

If I was Kelly [one of five prostitutes involved in a blackmail plot], and one, two, three and then four of my number were murdered in gruesome fashion, I think I might smell a rat and be out of Dodge City quicker than Puffed Wheat from a gun.

Regards,

Simon

[John Bennett]

Don't you think that if the victims knew each other, one of the friends or partners of the latter victims (John Kelly, Joseph Barnett, Michael Kidney, to name the 'closest' ones) would have mentioned something about it?

If you were living with your girlfriend/partner, surely they would have been affected in some way (even if it was just to say "oh heavens, Kathy's been murdered") by the death of somebody familiar to them?

And yet nobody mentioned anything like this.

PS. Apologies if this has been mentioned already.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Hi Mr Hyde,

If I was Kelly [one of five prostitutes involved in a blackmail plot], and one, two, three and then four of my number were murdered in gruesome fashion, I think I might smell a rat and be out of Dodge City quicker than Puffed Wheat from a gun.

Regards,

Simon

Possibly why MAK was behind in her rent.Not game to go out.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Hi Mr. Hyde,

If Jack was being blackmailed by prostitutes who allegedly knew his indentity, it would seem to imply that Jack was capable of paying them more money than they could get by turning him in and claiming the reward money. Would this not be true?

c.d.

Yes.In the minds of the blackmailers.Think the reward was 100 pounds initially.

[richardnunweek]

Hello John,
It was rumoured that Mjk, was aquainted with Annie Chapman, although only oral history, what you suggest seems logical, however it is quite possible that Mary did mention the fact that the women were known to her, at least to Barnett, just because he does not annnounce it to the media, does not say he was unaware of that, he may have had reasons why he never mentioned it.
For instance if Lottie was telling the truth in Kit watkins interview, when she refers to Mary having a bad dream, it is almost certain that Barnett would have been familiar with that occurance, especially as the dream refered to a prophecy of her murder, and he surely would have been the first to have heard of Marys distress, yet no mention was made, again reasons for keeping quite perhaps?.
I am not suggesting that all of the women knew each other, but a possiblity that Mary was aware who they were.
Regards Richard.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Hi Mr. Hyde,

Yes I have been reading your posts, including back on the Prostitutes 1881 thread where you posit Mary Kelly was a local woman. Your solution seems to do with the victims knowing each other and their killer, if I read between the lines correctly. Sort of an interwoven situation.

You drop a little bit here, a little bit there. Like feeding birds. Why not start a big post and lay out your scenario to the inth degree? Let the hammer down.

Roy

Just spent a fair amount of time replying.Hasn't come up.Really.Will redo later this afternoon.7.20am in the Land of Oz.

Dooh!Don't know what happened-has come up now.Doesn't do much for my credibility!