Who was killed by Jack the Ripper?

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  • Lewis C
    Inspector
    • Dec 2022
    • 1423

    #211
    Originally posted by Indian Harry View Post
    I don't want to be that guy.... but this thread which is supposed be on who was killed by Jack appears to have morphed into a detailed analysis of Druitt's cricket matches and their impact on his viability as a suspect. While this is interesting in it's own right, this discussion belongs elsewhere.... perhaps as its own dedicated topic.
    True, and in the Druitt sub-forum, there are 3 different threads about some aspect of Druitt and cricket, on the first 3 pages alone of that forum.

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    • Fiver
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Oct 2019
      • 3588

      #212
      Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

      Hi c.d

      The game was only discovered by a researcher called Joanna (I don’t know her second name) and was posted on this thread on JtRForums in 2022.

      Ever since Irving Rosenwater published his research into Druitt's cricket career in 1973 we have been aware that he played cricket in Canford, Dorset on 1 September 1888, one day after the murder of Mary Ann 'Polly' Nichols. Researching the British Newspaper Archive I have found that Druitt was also playing cricket in
      Thanks for the link. If Druitt played in Blandford, Dorset on 30 August and in Canford, Dorset on 1 September, then it's unlikely he did the round trip to Whitechapel in between.

      "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

      "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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      • Herlock Sholmes
        Commissioner
        • May 2017
        • 23531

        #213
        Originally posted by Fiver View Post

        Thanks for the link. If Druitt played in Blandford, Dorset on 30 August and in Canford, Dorset on 1 September, then it's unlikely he did the round trip to Whitechapel in between.
        Why is that?
        Herlock Sholmes

        ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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        • John Wheat
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Jul 2008
          • 3549

          #214
          I think most would think the C5 with the possible exception of Liz Stride were murdered by Jack. The argument that Mary Jane Kelly was murdered by someone else for instance for me just doesn't hold water. Tabram may or may not have been murdered by Jack. The Pinchin Street Torso was in all likelihood murdered by The Torso Killer as were the other Torso victims.

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          • Fiver
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Oct 2019
            • 3588

            #215
            Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

            Why is that?
            How long would it have taken Druitt to travel from Blandford, Dorset to Whitechapel and then to Canford, Dorset?
            "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

            "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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            • Herlock Sholmes
              Commissioner
              • May 2017
              • 23531

              #216
              Originally posted by Fiver View Post

              How long would it have taken Druitt to travel from Blandford, Dorset to Whitechapel and then to Canford, Dorset?
              I can’t recall the exact times Fiver but from the research that was done it wouldn’t have been a problem for him to have got back to London easily in time. Of course we don’t know the exact times that the game ended and it certainly doesn’t mean that he did go to London but the train journey would have been no obstacle.

              Again, I can’t recall the details but we have always assumed (from DJ Leighton’s book) that Druitt had an alibi for the Tabram murder but I believe that Roger found out that this wasn’t the case. Without me reading all through the JtRForums thread it would need Roger to give the details,
              Herlock Sholmes

              ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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              • Fiver
                Assistant Commissioner
                • Oct 2019
                • 3588

                #217
                Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                I can’t recall the exact times Fiver but from the research that was done it wouldn’t have been a problem for him to have got back to London easily in time. Of course we don’t know the exact times that the game ended and it certainly doesn’t mean that he did go to London but the train journey would have been no obstacle.
                I understand that there were enough hours between matches. Using Google maps and selecting Transit, it looks like the round trip would take about 7 hours today, not counting time for finding a victim, washing up, and changing clothes. Does that seem like a fair estimate of the time involved for Druitt to have murdered Nichols?

                "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

                "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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                • Herlock Sholmes
                  Commissioner
                  • May 2017
                  • 23531

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                  I understand that there were enough hours between matches. Using Google maps and selecting Transit, it looks like the round trip would take about 7 hours today, not counting time for finding a victim, washing up, and changing clothes. Does that seem like a fair estimate of the time involved for Druitt to have murdered Nichols?
                  If the game was called off at 2.00 for eg. even a 7 hour journey would have got him into London for 10.00. Over 5 hours before the murder.
                  Herlock Sholmes

                  ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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