Who was killed by Jack the Ripper?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Average over rate in club cricket is about 17 overs per hour. The average run rate per over in club cricket is approx 4-6 runs per overs. A whole game consisting of only 87 runs total is very unlikely to have lasted more than two to three hours, unless there were some serious rain delays of course.

Exactly Ian. And if there was a sudden, heavy downpour (with no covers) it wouldn’t have taken more than a very few minutes before the two captains would have concluded that no further play would be possible and so the game would have been called off.

[FISHY1118]

You,ve gone from 2 hours Tops in post 181, to 2 to 3 hours in post 195 . Do i hear 3 to 4 ??


Btw, its been accepted that Druitt could have made the trip whether the match took 2 or 4 hours or evan 6.

[Geddy2112]

You,ve gone from 2 hours Tops in post 181, to 2 to 3 hours in post 195 . Do i hear 3 to 4 ??


Btw, its been accepted that Druitt could have made the trip whether the match took 2 or 4 hours or evan 6.

I know, the extra hour was for rain delays. I stand by my experience in the many 100s of matches I've played at various levels and even though you have played longer (which means nothing really) there is no match I've experienced containing under 100 runs that has lasted over 3 hours including drinks, rain delays or anything else.

I do not give a jot how long it may or may not have taken Druitt to make a journey I'm talking about something I'm very well versed in and can give a valuable accurate opinion of. I do not know in 1888 they even probably bowled the overs faster I know I saw a huge decline in over rates during my career so I'm guessing back in 1888 the over rate may have been as high as 20 to 22 overs per hour. In fact it would have been a lot more since they only bowled 4 deliveries per over. Not that it matters to the maths of course.

[FISHY1118]

I know, the extra hour was for rain delays. I stand by my experience in the many 100s of matches I've played at various levels and even though you have played longer (which means nothing really) there is no match I've experienced containing under 100 runs that has lasted over 3 hours including drinks, rain delays or anything else.

I do not give a jot how long it may or may not have taken Druitt to make a journey I'm talking about something I'm very well versed in and can give a valuable accurate opinion of. I do not know in 1888 they even probably bowled the overs faster I know I saw a huge decline in over rates during my career so I'm guessing back in 1888 the over rate may have been as high as 20 to 22 overs per hour. In fact it would have been a lot more since they only bowled 4 deliveries per over. Not that it matters to the maths of course.

How many 40 over matches have you played in that lasted just two hours?

[Herlock Sholmes]

I don’t really understand why this is ongoing. We don’t know what time the game started. We know that very few runs were scored and so the actual play could have been as short as 2 hours or so. We know that the game was cut short (as can be seen by the fact that the game didn’t end after Purbeck had beaten 25 - and that it was intended as a 2 innings game) We know that there was rain in the area so it’s overwhelmingly likely that rain was the cause of the stoppage. We know that the pitch would have had no covers to bring out and so after a short period of heavy rain it wouldn’t have taken an expert to see that no further play would have been possible and so the captains would have agreed that it was over for the day.

So Druitt has no alibi. I’ll stress again, this doesn’t mean that he did return to London but he could easily have done so. What I would ask when people point out that he would have been unlikely to have returned to London is that we would have to ask this question in the light of him being a serial killer. If he wasn’t the killer then he clearly didn’t return to London but if (yes if) he wasn’t the killer, then he was serial killer. Serial killers aren’t known for their reasoned behaviour.

Shouldn't it just be said - we can’t eliminate Druitt. We can’t prove him the killer. Attempts to eliminate him on the current evidence is futile.

[c.d.]

Shouldn't it just be said - we can’t eliminate Druitt. We can’t prove him the killer. Attempts to eliminate him on the current evidence is futile.

Didn't Sugden address all this match business and train times etc.?

c.d.

[Abby Normal]

Shouldn't it just be said - we can’t eliminate Druitt. We can’t prove him the killer. Attempts to eliminate him on the current evidence is futile.

Didn't Sugden address all this match business and train times etc.?

c.d.

he did and many others. while the times, logistics make it tight, druitt could still have gone back in forth. herlock is 100% correct..He cant be eliminated.

[Geddy2112]

How many 40 over matches have you played in that lasted just two hours?

Probably a good number. Especially evening 'cup ties' as they were back in the day. Regardless a 87 run total game would not have taken 40 overs, where did you get that from?

[Doctored Whatsit]

Back in the 1950s Surrey completed a three day County match by the middle of the afternoon of the first day! They got the opposition to bat first on a damp pitch, skittled them out for 30 odd runs, Surrey batted, and Peter May surprised everyone by declaring at about 70 runs or so. The opposition was again skittled out for about 30, and Surrey won by an innings and a few runs. It was in the days of Jim Laker and Tony Lock. Ken Barrington said he was home, and mowing his lawn by tea time!

[FISHY1118]

Probably a good number. Especially evening 'cup ties' as they were back in the day. Regardless a 87 run total game would not have taken 40 overs, where did you get that from?

Its not a about the runs in that particular game druitt played in. He bowled 10 over took 7wickets for 3 runs .

For him to bowl 10 someone has to bowl 9 ,there's 19 overs . Given the other team made 64 ,its not hard to suggest that they would have face the same amount, perhaps even more . So minimum 40.

Steve Blomer makes this point on the podcast at 46 min mark ,check it out for yourself . 3 to 4 hours comfortably .

30 years as a wicket keeper ,never played in a game of 40 overs that lasted 2 hours ,just never happened.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Shouldn't it just be said - we can’t eliminate Druitt. We can’t prove him the killer. Attempts to eliminate him on the current evidence is futile.

Didn't Sugden address all this match business and train times etc.?

c.d.

Hi c.d

The game was only discovered by a researcher called Joanna (I don’t know her second name) and was posted on this thread on JtRForums in 2022.

https://www.jtrforums.com/forum/persons-of-interest-or-actual-suspects/m-j-druitt/588052-proof-of-innocence#post588052