Of the five canonical victims, which one elicits your strongest EMOTIONAL response?

[drstrange169]

>> I would be interested to know a bit about the different ways in which the individual victims tug at your heart strings. <<

With Polly, it’s the sliding doors moment when, having been lucky enough to be picked for the new Peabody Buildings, it all goes so wrong. Either she started problem drinking because her husband was having an affair or he had an affair because of her problem drinking.
It’s as if you can see the multiverse divide into two different futures.

Annie seems to me a doomed woman. Whereas, I feel like Polly had a divided future, I feel Annie was always destined to her road, not victim of jtr, but the downward spiral. She was going to die, probably in 1888 or close to it, anyway. The heartfelt moment for me was the already sick Annie fighting over the soap.

My moment for Elizabeth, was her move to the big city in Sweden. It seems to me to be both her downfall and rise in a very strange way. She seems to have been the smartest of the five. Her troubles in Sweden seem to have made her a streetwise survivor by the time she lands in England.

With Catherine, she strikes me as always having the street smarts Elizabeth learned. She seems like the confirmed good time girl, who was going to make the best of the bad in her life. She may well have gone with jtr with a happy heart. Does it get more heart felt than that!

Mary is a mystery. A blank page we can write whatever we want. That fact and the appalling nature of her main legacy, the two photo's, are what drives most people towards singling her out from the others. For me that makes her the hardest to know how to feel about, because any feelings I have, are driven solely by those photos, not the person.

>> I will pm you some info about the project when I get a mo later.<<

I'd like that, thanks.

[etenguy]

Hi All,
I would be really interested to know, given your understanding of the victims lives and deaths, which of the victim mortuary / crime scene photographs evokes the strongest emotional response from you and why?

For the sheer horror of the mutilations, Annie, Kate and Mary all evoke strong emotions. Elizabeth and Polly were spared severe desecration of their bodies. All murdered violently though and each deserving of our thoughts and prayers.

For your project, I voted for Polly - so pleased with her jolly bonnet - she thought she'd soon be back. And then she was found so soon after her death mistaken for a piece of rubbish in the street. There was the added cruelty of just being left where she was found by Lechmere and Paul that I have always found heartbreaking.

I feel sorry for all of them because now forever they're associated with this sicko. We put pictures of them here on this website. But how would you like to have your murdered face put up for people to leer at forever? So I suppose to answer the question Mary Kelly, imagine if that was you? Not but now in 3d and high resolution, yeah great as low handclap from me.

I'm no better, i put extensive details of Ellen Bury's autopsy following her murder, the cannocial victim few people know about but very much a ripper murder.
I would choose her if this was recognised for what it was she suffered horrific abuse before her murder.

[Ms Diddles]

I voted for mary but they all do-very much so, the little we know about them their humanity, humor and kindness in tough situation really hits me hard. other than the whodunnit aspect of the case, my love and sympathy for the victims is what interests me the most.

Thanks Abby and well said!

[Abby Normal]

I voted for mary but they all do-very much so, the little we know about them their humanity, humor and kindness in tough situation really hits me hard. other than the whodunnit aspect of the case, my love and sympathy for the victims is what interests me the most.

[Ms Diddles]

Annie Chapman, I believe. She seems a nice woman, fallen to circumstances far below her education and start in life, trying her best to get by. It hurts me to think of her, sick (just out of the hospital), perhaps even dying on her own with no assistance from the Ripper, but nonetheless she had to go out and prostitute herself if she wanted a warm bed to sleep in.

The circumstances of her murder have always filled me with a peculiar horror too. Not so much the mutiliations, for there were far worse, but rather that she was killed in that claustrophobic back yard, right beneath someone's bedroom window, even as people were beginning to stir. For whatever reason, that thought, of murder occuring just outside someone's bedroom window as they sleep, affects me.

Thanks Ginger!

In many ways I find Annie the most poignant of the victims too.

She seems to have fallen the furthest and been well loved by her family.

I get the feeling that things could have turned out very differently for Annie had the addiction not got such a strong hold.

[Ms Diddles]

I voted for Mary Kelly simply because of the horror that was perpetrated upon her. Nonetheless, I think all the victims are equally deserving of our sympathy.

Thanks Enigma!

Your input is appreciated!

[Ms Diddles]

I wouldn't pick any one victim out. For me they all elicit an emotional response, each one different, as I research their lives each tugs at the old heart strings in different ways.

Thanks Dusty!.

I would be interested to know a bit about the different ways in which the individual victims tug at your heart strings.

I will pm you some info about the project when I get a mo later.

[Ginger]

Annie Chapman, I believe. She seems a nice woman, fallen to circumstances far below her education and start in life, trying her best to get by. It hurts me to think of her, sick (just out of the hospital), perhaps even dying on her own with no assistance from the Ripper, but nonetheless she had to go out and prostitute herself if she wanted a warm bed to sleep in.

The circumstances of her murder have always filled me with a peculiar horror too. Not so much the mutiliations, for there were far worse, but rather that she was killed in that claustrophobic back yard, right beneath someone's bedroom window, even as people were beginning to stir. For whatever reason, that thought, of murder occuring just outside someone's bedroom window as they sleep, affects me.

[drstrange169]

What's the nature of the art project, if you don't mind me asking? it sounds interesting.

[Enigma]

I voted for Mary Kelly simply because of the horror that was perpetrated upon her. Nonetheless, I think all the victims are equally deserving of our sympathy.

[MrBarnett]

I wouldn't pick any one victim out. For me they all elicit an emotional response, each one different, as I research their lives each tugs at the old heart strings in different ways.

How much research have you done into their lives?

[drstrange169]

I wouldn't pick any one victim out. For me they all elicit an emotional response, each one different, as I research their lives each tugs at the old heart strings in different ways.

[Ms Diddles]

That's weird!

From messages I've received, it appears that the poll is not adding up properly.

So far I make it two votes for MJK (Herlock and Ero), two votes for Kate (me and Mr B) and one vote for Liz.

The poll just shows one vote each for MJK, Kate and Liz.

Does it take a while for votes to show up?

It's the first time I've posted a poll so I'm not quite sure how it works.......!!!

[Ms Diddles]

I voted for Kate, too, for all the reasons you out forward. That said, I do consider her children - and even Tom Conway - to have been victims of her life choices.

Thanks Mr B!

Another excellent point......