Originally posted by The Rookie Detective
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There are of course a number of reasons why she did that, but I agree that your hypothesis is particularly interesting because it would then perhaps indicate that Billycock Bricklayer's Arms man with whom she was seen kissing and hugging after they came out of the pub by multiple witnesses, could have in fact been her fiance?
It would explain why they were standing outside the door of the pub, because it was raining heavily at the time. They rushed off in the direction of Berner Street BUT Stride is NOT seen being intimate with anyone else once she has arrived in Berner Street.
The witness who saw the couple kissing and "carrying on" in Berner Street would appear to have been another couple because they were standing on the southern part of Berner Street and the man in the sailor hat who told the woman "you'll say anything but your prayers" is likely to have been a red herring. This is based on the brilliant map that Wickerman uploaded; it really shows exactly the geographics of WHERE each witness/suspect was seen at the time.
The witness who saw the couple kissing and "carrying on" in Berner Street would appear to have been another couple because they were standing on the southern part of Berner Street and the man in the sailor hat who told the woman "you'll say anything but your prayers" is likely to have been a red herring. This is based on the brilliant map that Wickerman uploaded; it really shows exactly the geographics of WHERE each witness/suspect was seen at the time.
If we rule out the couple seen kissing and carrying on in Berner Street, then Stride; despite being seen talking with other men, was NOT seen touting for business in Berner Street.
This is evidenced when she tells a man around 12.45am "No, not tonight, some other night."
Notice that she doesn't say "Go away" or "NO, i'm not doing that!"
Her choice of words clearly indicate that she was NOT touting for business that night.
This is evidenced when she tells a man around 12.45am "No, not tonight, some other night."
Notice that she doesn't say "Go away" or "NO, i'm not doing that!"
Her choice of words clearly indicate that she was NOT touting for business that night.
Your hypothesis (I won't say theory because it might cause friction with others) is very interesting, because while there appears to be no evidence, it could explain her actions that night.
And raise the question, was her Fiance in the club? And was she waiting for him?
And raise the question, was her Fiance in the club? And was she waiting for him?
Did a regular client see her and approach her but because she rejected his efforts,he walked off, but then came back, threw her down and then just slit her throat moments after he shouted across the road to Pipeman and Schwartz.
Or perhaps Kidney found her and it was the actions of a jilted lover?
Or perhaps Kidney found her and it was the actions of a jilted lover?
Your idea that was planning on getting married is made even more interesting by the fact that she was present when Barnardo was in the kitchen. Did his speech to her inspire her to try and get out and way from the life of destitution?
Stride left kidney on the Tuesday and stayed at 32 Flower and Dean St for the next few nights up until her murder.
To me, it has always felt that she was running away and perhaps Barnardo made an impression on her. Barnardo was also obsessed with the family unit and the idea of a secure marriage was part of his preaching.
I mean, it's conjecture for the most part, but still an interesting take on her story leading up to her death.
Stride left kidney on the Tuesday and stayed at 32 Flower and Dean St for the next few nights up until her murder.
To me, it has always felt that she was running away and perhaps Barnardo made an impression on her. Barnardo was also obsessed with the family unit and the idea of a secure marriage was part of his preaching.
I mean, it's conjecture for the most part, but still an interesting take on her story leading up to her death.
What's interesting is that she chose to drink at the Bricklayers Arms and then headed to Berner street, which isn't in the local vicinity of where she was residing at the time. in other words, why didn't she choose a pub nearer to her?
The being "engaged" hypothesis could be something worth pursuing though, even if it leads nowhere, it's always good to flush out every idea possible.
Lots to ponder
Lots to ponder
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