Victim solitary

[John Bennett]

I believe a witness claimed to have seen Chapman in a pub shortly after 5 in the morning of her murder.

I don't recall the name of the witness if it was ever made public.

This sounds like the story from the pot-man of the Ten Bells. This version is from The Star, 8 Sept:

"The proprietor of the Ten Bells is Mr. E. Waldron. The house stands on the corner of Spitalfields Market, and opens early for the convenience of those who bring their goods from the country. One of the assistants gave some information to our reporter with reference to the rumor that the murdered woman was seen there this morning. He said: A woman did call in here about five o'clock. She was poorly dressed, having no bodice to her skirt. She was middle-aged. She just had something to drink, when a man called for her. He just popped his head in the door and retired immediately afterwards. He had on a little skull cap, and was, as far as I could see, without a coat. But he gave me no opportunity of seeing him. I think, however, I should know his face again, and I think I would also know the woman. The description of the woman corresponds to a certain extent, especially with regard to age, hair, and clothing, with that of the victim of to-day."

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Stan. I believe it turned out he was thinking of another woman.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[sdreid]

I don't recall the name of the witness if it was ever made public.

[sdreid]

I believe a witness claimed to have seen Chapman in a pub shortly after 5 in the morning of her murder.

[sdreid]

Annie - The only victim who "opened" a pub shortly before she was killed.

I don't understand that. Would you explain, please?

Meaning she was perhaps in a pub soon after it opened as opposed to closing a pub, that is, being there at closing time. Maybe it's just an Illinois thing.

[Lechmere]

Matthew Packer claim to have been in Stride's company not long before she was killed.
PC Hutt was in Eddowes's company not long before she was killed.
Did Schwartz follow Stride to her murder site?
Did Kelly possibly speak Welsh?

[sdreid]

I wasn't considering Eddowes as a Kelly.

Regarding Chapman, I believe there was a report that she was seen in a pub that had just opened for the day at 5 AM. Maybe I should have said reportedly.

[curious]

Nichols-The only victim who was married more than 20 years

Chapman-The only victim who "opened" a pub shortly before she was killed

Stride-The only victim who didn't have a double letter in her name at the time of her death

Eddowes-The only victim who was a mother-in-law

Kelly-The only victim who had what could have been defense wounds

Ok, Stan,
You've stumped me.

Annie - The only victim who "opened" a pub shortly before she was killed.

I don't understand that. Would you explain, please?

and are you considering Eddowes as a Kelly?

Thx,
curious

[Heinrich]

I will rephrase the above.
Kelly.
The only victim for which a male person (Hutchinson) lays claim to have been in her company shortly before she was killed.

Joseph Barnett claims to have been with her on the night of the murder.

Kelly-The only victim who had what could have been defense wounds

There were negligible identifiable defensive wounds to Mary Kelly, apart from a minor superficial cut to the thumb that had bled, and abrasions to the back of the hand that were not typically defensive in nature, but could have been inflicted as Kelly put up a reflex defense leading us to believe she was either killed while asleep, or taken by surprise and instantly overpowered.

[sdreid]

Nichols-The only victim who'd had a steady job in 1888

It was technically a steady job although it didn't last long.

[sdreid]

Nichols-The only victim who'd had a steady job in 1888

Chapman-The only victim who had what were described as parallel cuts to the throat

Stride-The only victim who'd once been the subject of a king

Eddowes-The only victim who was in a questioned marriage at the time of her death

Kelly-The only victim who was followed by a witness to the murder site

[sdreid]

Nichols-The only victim who was married more than 20 years

Chapman-The only victim who "opened" a pub shortly before she was killed

Stride-The only victim who didn't have a double letter in her name at the time of her death

Eddowes-The only victim who was a mother-in-law

Kelly-The only victim who had what could have been defense wounds

[sdreid]

Stride-The only multilingual victim

Maybe I should have added (probably) here. I guess it's possible that Kelly could have spoken some Irish/Gaeilge.

[sdreid]

Yes, dividing the world the other way, all the victims were from the Northern Hemisphere.

[Sister Hyde]

Country wholly east of zero degrees longitude and wholly west of 180 degrees longitude.

ok I understand better (for me Sweden is just the far "northern")