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Originally posted by Elamarna
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The only way that BS man could have been the Ripper, is if he was trying to kill her when Schwartz got as far as the gateway and witnessed the assault from just a few yards away.
But Schwartz doesn't describe a man he believes is trying to murder someone. On the contrary; he describes what he believes is a domestic assault between a couple.
This is not indicative of the Ripper; ergo, the Ripper would have only initiated an attack with the intent to kill quickly, silently and without witness.
But according to Schwartz; he witnesses BS man try and drag Stride into the road.
He also eludes to the idea that he believed Bs man was intoxicated.
It's also important to note that the initial report that appeared in the press the day after the murder, only mentioned a person witnessing what they believed was a domestic; hence why they moved on.
To me, it seems that the police and/or press took that initial statement and then embellished it in a bid to try and oust the killer and/or push the anti-Jewish rhetoric.
Schwartz was said to have not been clear as to whom the shout of "LIPSKI!" was aimed at, and it was only Abberline and Co who then shaped that statement to fit their own belief that the killer was a Jew.
I really do believe that the police chose to believe that only a Jew could have committed those murders, and that a gentile wouldn't have delved so low.
That's the whole point of the GSG for me; the author being the Ripper who was a non-Jew being ironic and mocking the police by essentially saying that if they were going to blame the Jews, then he would give them something to blame the Jews for.
But going back to the Bs man and his behaviour; if he was the Ripper, then he wouldn't have got drink and then openly dragged a woman into the street.
That then leaves us with the scenario whereby Bs man walks off, Stride gets up and then is murdered by another man.
Now if Pipeman and Overcoat man seen by Brown were the same man (as has been suggested before, but not by me) then it seems possible that Stride gets up and walks away only to be approached by Overcoat man on the corner.
This then means that the assault on Stride by BS man occurs during the 3 to 4 minutes that Brown is in the Chandlers shop on the corner.
After Brown walks east, Stride then heads into the yard, or is gestured to do so by Pipeman.
Pipeman then cuts her throat and walks off north and is then heard by Mortimer, who then comes to her door just after the killer turns left into the arched passageway between no. 30 and No. 32 Berner Street.
But seeing as Miss Letchford was at her door at 12.50am, it seems unlikely the killer headed north after the murder.
The easiest escape route being south, then west along fairclough, before turning left and walking south down Back Church Lane as far as the train line, before then turning right and heading along Cable Street.
This route from Berner Street to Mitre Square would have taken the killer past Pinchin Street, within a few yards of the subsequent torso placement, and then further on; directly past Swallow Gardens where Coles was murdered.
The killer would have then walked within yards of Bachert's house in Tenter Street as he headed north/north west and towards the COL.
Of course, the idea works if Pipeman and Overcoat man are the same man.
If they are, then it proves that Schwartz was present, because he saw the same man that Brown did.
Of course, if Schwartz was lying, then how would he know about Overcoat man?
Unless he was there in another capacity of course.
There's one little interesting point regarding Schwartz; in one of the the alleged Ripper letters, the author refers to the double event and that he couldn't do what he wanted with the first kill, because she "Squealed a bit"
It seems that the killer is confirming that Stride made some noise and he couldn't finish her off the way he wanted to
The only other person to claim that he witnessed Stride making any noise (outside of talking)... was Schwartz.
Fascinating.
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