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  • #16
    Hullo Lynn same song maybe but perhaps a different tune

    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello DLDW. Thanks.

    "Let's say she was soliciting and bothersome and then ends up dead on your doorstep. It's not a stretch to think those who did see her when asked would not admit it."

    Quite. So you're saying the club may have engaged in a bit of duplicity to save their own hides? Hmm, singing my song.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Perhaps just the same as IS they didn't want anything to do with it. Nothing nefarious, just self preservation. I imagine that there was a good possibility if she would/could have cried for assistance she may have survived that evening. I think they all might have increased their chances significantly.
    Valour pleases Crom.

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    • #17
      survival

      Hello DLDW. Thanks.

      "Nothing nefarious, just self preservation."

      Good! You see that. I keep emphasising this, yet get accused of fomenting conspiracy theory.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • #18
        Of course, I was getting used to it by then.....

        Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
        Hello DLDW. Thanks.

        "Nothing nefarious, just self preservation."

        Good! You see that. I keep emphasising this, yet get accused of fomenting conspiracy theory.

        Cheers.
        LC
        Hi Lynn

        I take it you don't play cricket then?

        All the best

        Dave

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        • #19
          Good evening Watson,

          Originally posted by Digalittledeeperwatson View Post
          Me thinks a list of club members and guests for that evening ( other evenings as well) might shed some light on her murder.
          I still maintain Ginger Baker was drumming for the sing-along that night

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          Sink the Bismark

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            Dave

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Digalittledeeperwatson View Post
              If he is to be believed, IS buggered off and didn't bother to even find a constable. Fear and apathy.
              Schwartz is the one man we know to have fled from the scene of a 'Ripper' murder and yet, so far as I know, no-one has ever suggested him as a suspect. I'm not putting him forward as such, just a little surprised that no-one has done so.
              I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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              • #22
                Hi Colin

                I've considered him in that light, but let's be honest, depending upon timing, he's either a priceless witness or a total bullshite irrelevance...the chances of something in between, are, let's be honest, nil...so which?

                Despite a distinct lack of FIRM evidence I'm currently veering towards the first Colin...how about you?

                All the best

                Dave

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                • #23
                  Oh Bridewell

                  Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
                  Schwartz is the one man we know to have fled from the scene of a 'Ripper' murder and yet, so far as I know, no-one has ever suggested him as a suspect. I'm not putting him forward as such, just a little surprised that no-one has done so.
                  I've been not saying aloud for a while. Waiting and waiting. Thank you.
                  Valour pleases Crom.

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                  • #24
                    proposal

                    Hello Colin, Dave, DLDW. Actually, he has been proposed before.

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • #25
                      Not shocked

                      Well, anyone who admits to being anywhere near where a murder occurlred at about the correct time is suspect to endless scrutiny until proven otherwise. Crossmere Cadosch Schwartz Hutchinson they all gots targets on them.
                      Valour pleases Crom.

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                      • #26
                        Has anyone considered the murderer might have left the club from the side door and walked out into the dark alley toward Berner street, coming up behind Liz catching her unaware? Then possibly hearing the approaching pony dashed back into the club.

                        In other words a member? Or is this ridiculous, as he would have not been stalking her to begin with and would be just a lucky ripper that night, except for being disturbed, that is.
                        Last edited by Beowulf; 07-06-2013, 04:57 AM. Reason: additional description

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                        • #27
                          Hullo Beowulf

                          Originally posted by Beowulf View Post
                          Has anyone considered the murderer might have left the club from the side door and walked out into the dark alley toward Berner street, coming up behind Liz catching her unaware? Then possibly hearing the approaching pony dashed back into the club.

                          In other words a member? Or is this ridiculous, as he would have not been stalking her to begin with and would be just a lucky ripper that night, except for being disturbed, that is.
                          Sans the ripper, and possibly returning into the club? I think Lynn has expressed this sort of scenario before. Michael Richards possibly as well? Not trying to put them on blast.
                          Valour pleases Crom.

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                          • #28
                            Actually...

                            Mr. Cates has/had a video on the Youtube with a possible scenario.
                            Valour pleases Crom.

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                            • #29
                              rope

                              Hello DLDW.

                              "Crossmere Cadosch Schwartz Hutchinson they all gots targets on them."

                              Yes. And that is either genius or an indication that we have gotten near the end of our investigatorial ropes.

                              Cheers.
                              LC

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                              • #30
                                possible

                                Hello Barbara.

                                "Has anyone considered the murderer might have left the club from the side door and walked out into the dark alley toward Berner street, coming up behind Liz catching her unaware?"

                                Well, at some point, this may have crossed my mind.

                                Cheers.
                                LC

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