Who Died in Dutfield's Yard?

[MrBarnett]

Neither have I.

Good luck with that.

There’s little doubt the family were living there in 1888. On 16th April, 1888, Israel’s daughter, Amelia, aged 8, transferred from the Jew’s Free School to the Berner Street School. Her home address was recorded as 40, Berner Street. She stayed at the school until 1892 when she moved to Settles Street school. When she registered at Settles Street, her home address was again given as 40, BS. In between, the Goldstein household consisting of 10 people appear on the 1891 census at 40 BS, and they were still there in 1901.

[DJA]

11 in the 1891 Census,including 2 boarders and 2 in-laws.

[DJA]

That (post 134) is W.Hindley,Sack Manufacturer.

[MrBarnett]

11 in the 1891 Census,including 2 boarders and 2 in-laws.

Yes, if you include the blind tailor Alec Schwartz occupying three rooms.

Certainly by 1891, Izzy G appears to be the most significant resident at the address. And if he was there in 1888 - and was the caretaker - why haven’t we heard of him?

[DJA]

Because he was working and residing at Hindley's ...... out the back Jack.

[MrBarnett]

Because he was working and residing at Hindley's ...... out the back Jack.

No, the sack warehouse is clearly separate from 40 BS. And, of course, sacks wee not made by tailors.

[DJA]

Have good look at post 134. It was yours.

It is the house built above ground in the back left hand corner of the yard.

[MrBarnett]

Here’s a question: what’s the use of a club steward who only turns up at the end of the night? A club steward is responsible for the activities of the club members while they are on the club premises.

A caretaker is responsible for the building at all times, and often lives on the premises.

[MrBarnett]

Have good look at post 134. It was yours.

It is the house built above ground in the back left hand corner of the yard.

Post 134 on this thread is by Wickerman.

[MrBarnett]

[DJA]

It's post 134 when I'm logged in ...... otherwise it is post 224

Read post 224.

[DJA]

[MrBarnett]

Through the gateway is the sack ‘warehouse’.

The next premises listed is 40, BS, the socialist club, where lives its caretaker and his family.

It’s pretty clear.

[DJA]

Think we found Andrew's horse ..... it was hiding on the other side of the gate ..... in 1891 .....

[MrBarnett]

Think we found Andrew's horse ..... it was hiding on the other side of the gate ..... in 1891 .....

The image is from a Booth survey which took place in June, 1887. The caretaker of the club then lived on the premises. He was a Jewish tailor with 5 children.

A tailor named Goldsmith, who had 5 children, lived at 40, BS between (at least) April, 1888 and April, 1901. By 1891, he, his extended family and lodgers had pretty much taken over the whole building.

Why have we never heard of him before? Or have we?