Elizabeth's murder and the double event

[Lewis C]

So when The Star prints that "The Hungarian states positively that he saw a knife in this second man's hand...", you're saying that they didn't just slip in a little word that their interviewee didn't say, but actually cranked it up to 11 wth a 'states positively'? And for no meaningful reason other than to give a foreign Jewish nobody an excuse for buggering off in panic as a woman was assaulted next to him? How uncharacteristically generous of yellow journalism to cut a guy so much slack!

This just won't wash. 'Schwartz' himself -- or the bilingual ventriloquist operating him -- went further and wilder with the press because he knew there'd be none of the repercussions there'd have been had he piled the horseshit that high in front of the police. The agenda, however, is the same in both cases.

M.

The point is that whether or not the police and/or press version of Schwartz's statement accurately reflects Schwartz's words, nothing in either indicates that BS man didn't go into the club, other than that one would have reason to doubt that someone shouting "Lipsky" would then go into a Jewish club.

[Mark J D]

The point is that whether or not the police and/or press version of Schwartz's statement accurately reflects Schwartz's words, nothing in either indicates that BS man didn't go into the club, other than that one would have reason to doubt that someone shouting "Lipsky" would then go into a Jewish club.

'Didn't go into the club'? What I said was 'didn't attempt to go in the door'.

I'm not wasting time on this.

M.

[Mark J D]

The agenda, however, is the same in both cases.

-- Specifically: 'Schwartz' has the job of packaging for the police and the public 'witness reports' which establish by way of a confected mix of statement, hint and implication that Stride was attacked by a man who had been walking towards the club but wasn't going there; who hadn't come out of the club; who wasn't anything to do with the club, and definitely, definitely, definitely wasn't Jewish.

M.

[drstrange169]

" ...definitely, definitely, definitely wasn't Jewish."

How does anybody read the broad shouldered man as definitely not Jewish?

[Lewis C]

'Didn't go into the club'? What I said was 'didn't attempt to go in the door'.

I'm not wasting time on this.

M.

How is one different from the other?

[NotBlamedForNothing]

How does anybody read the broad shouldered man as definitely not Jewish?

Definitely is a big claim, but probably isn't, given that Pipeman's name almost definitely was not Lipski.