A problem with the "Eddowes Shawl" DNA match

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  • PaulB
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    Originally posted by Archaic View Post
    Hi everyone. There are new comments from Jari ron Russell Edwards' website. Dated 29 June 2015.

    The heading is: Shawl that nailed Polish Lunatic Aaron Kosminski and the Forensic expert that made the critical match



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    Archaic
    Everything relating to the rarity of the Eddowes DNA (314.1c) has been deleted from the paperback and, as in this interview, the concentration is on the match with Kosminski's DNA, which they claim is 100%. They go on to state that having the DNA of both Eddowes and Kosminski on the same piece of material is pretty decisive (which I guess it would be), but I'm not sure how certain the Eddowes DNA match now is. It certainly seems to be played down.

    So, the emphasis is on the Kosminski DNA match.

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  • GUT
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    But I guess he has to recover what he spent somehow.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Archaic View Post
    Hi everyone. There are new comments from Jari ron Russell Edwards' website. Dated 29 June 2015.

    The heading is: Shawl that nailed Polish Lunatic Aaron Kosminski and the Forensic expert that made the critical match



    Best regards,
    Archaic
    He's still at it.

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  • Archaic
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    Jari Posted Comment re: Shawl Research On Edwards' Site

    Hi everyone. There are new comments from Jari ron Russell Edwards' website. Dated 29 June 2015.

    The heading is: Shawl that nailed Polish Lunatic Aaron Kosminski and the Forensic expert that made the critical match



    Best regards,
    Archaic

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  • pinkmoon
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    Originally posted by gnote View Post
    Weren't most of them inside the social club when the actual murder took place though?
    Yes but before the police arrived people had started to drift into the yard so when police arrived they took their names like I said before that list if it was ever to be found would make interesting reading we would probably be disappointed though.

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  • gnote
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    Originally posted by RockySullivan View Post
    Anyone in the club potentially could have slipped into the yard, but it's very unlikely the killer went back into the club especially if he was bloody right?
    Slashing her throat, coming back to the club and getting back into the festivities like nothing happened? Possible yes, but not likely.

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  • RockySullivan
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    Originally posted by gnote View Post
    Weren't most of them inside the social club when the actual murder took place though?
    Anyone in the club potentially could have slipped into the yard, but it's very unlikely the killer went back into the club especially if he was bloody right?

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  • gnote
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    The police were meant to have taken the name of 27 people who were in dutfields yard when they arrived on the scene of the Liz stride murder that document if it still exists would make interesting reading.
    Weren't most of them inside the social club when the actual murder took place though?

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  • pinkmoon
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    The police were meant to have taken the name of 27 people who were in dutfields yard when they arrived on the scene of the Liz stride murder that document if it still exists would make interesting reading.

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  • gnote
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    I guess "good" is a relative term but i'd even consider him a "great" suspect if comparing him to some of the other laughable ones that have been presented.

    Obviously it would be nice to know what (if anything) the police had on Kosminski. It may well have been extremely weak and/or filled with some wishful thinking but i have a hard time they believing his name was more or less pulled out of thin air.

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  • pinkmoon
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    Evening gnote,kosminsk wasn't really a good suspect he only came into the frame because he pulled a knife two years after the last murder as he was a loon and lived in the area during the murders he came to be looked at by the police any thing no matter how remote would look good to the police when they had no real clue to the killers identity.

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  • gnote
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    To get it so wrong with the d.n.a side of the "research" means they are totally and utterly incompetent to the same level as laurel and hardy or they just made it up to help sell the book .was this a purely money a making scheme well if we look at the fact that the author opened a jack the ripper shop at about the same time as the book appeared and closed it when it came apparent about the "mistakes" concerning the d.n.a I will let you make your own minds up.
    What's really sad about is Kosminski is still a viable suspect. Now i'd almost hate to see the case solved if it were in fact proved to be him.

    Imagine if the case was closed in the future with brand new evidence and (proper) testing. A good number of people would say "they already knew the identity of the Ripper" or that Edwards "paved the way". Ugh.
    Last edited by gnote; 12-29-2014, 02:04 PM.

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  • pinkmoon
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    Originally posted by elleryqueen74 View Post
    It is not like this author would of been the first to write a book based on dodgy information now would it?

    There is always someone willing to write a book or whatever on any little bit of drivel they can rustle up to try to obtain notoriety and/or money.
    To get it so wrong with the d.n.a side of the "research" means they are totally and utterly incompetent to the same level as laurel and hardy or they just made it up to help sell the book .was this a purely money a making scheme well if we look at the fact that the author opened a jack the ripper shop at about the same time as the book appeared and closed it when it came apparent about the "mistakes" concerning the d.n.a I will let you make your own minds up.

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  • elleryqueen74
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    I find it totally wrong to have sold all those books on the back of dodgy d.n.a evidence at its best it's just incompetent to the level of laurel and hardy and the worst fraudulent I would like to see the police look at this and I don't mean pc Amos.
    It is not like this author would of been the first to write a book based on dodgy information now would it?

    There is always someone willing to write a book or whatever on any little bit of drivel they can rustle up to try to obtain notoriety and/or money.

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  • richardh
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    I find it totally wrong to have sold all those books on the back of dodgy d.n.a evidence at its best it's just incompetent to the level of laurel and hardy and the worst fraudulent I would like to see the police look at this and I don't mean pc Amos.
    I think the most fraudulent part of this saga is when the author claims on his website to have sold 1 MILLION copies which is an outright LIE and only made to convince others that they should buy it. Now that's what should be investigated.

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