A problem with the "Eddowes Shawl" DNA match

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  • drstrange169
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    It's out there as common knowledge,

    "Jack the Ripper’s back in the news, with a new book claiming to have definitively established Aaron Kosminski as the true killer already lambasted as a comedy of errors by members of the scientific community."

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  • Caligo Umbrator
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    *Deleted*
    Last edited by Caligo Umbrator; 10-28-2014, 11:22 PM.

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  • mickreed
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    Originally posted by Caligo Umbrator View Post
    Hi,
    Looks like Koz is in the clear.
    That organ of truth, The Mail, published this just under 2 years ago and it seems to me to contain evidence of such importance and startling clarity that I am surprised anyone ever thought to compose another word on the matter of the case.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-problem.html
    Looks convincing to me.My maths is shite, so there's no chance of me challenging it.

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  • GUT
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    And did anyone notice this bit in the sidebar:

    "ROBERT MANN: Historian Mei Trow points the finger at mortuary attendant Robert Mann. He was well educated in anatomy, lived locally and came from a poor background. The first two victims, Polly Nichols and Annie Chapman, are known to have been delivered to his mortuary."


    My bolding.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Caligo Umbrator View Post
    Hi,
    Looks like Koz is in the clear.
    That organ of truth, The Mail, published this just under 2 years ago and it seems to me to contain evidence of such importance and startling clarity that I am surprised anyone ever thought to compose another word on the matter of the case.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-problem.html

    See maths has the answer [I wonder if he got 42] and it is the Daily Mail, so how could it be wrong. At least he doesn't say "Case Closed".
    Last edited by GUT; 10-28-2014, 10:56 PM.

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  • Caligo Umbrator
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    Hi,
    Looks like Koz is in the clear.
    That organ of truth, The Mail, published this just under 2 years ago and it seems to me to contain evidence of such importance and startling clarity that I am surprised anyone ever thought to compose another word on the matter of the case.

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  • Peter Griffith aka gryff
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    Originally posted by mickreed View Post
    Good work Gryff,

    It's easy to see that 314.1C is so vanishing rare. I think that only 1 in 290,000 would have called it that.
    Well maybe er ... 2 in 290,000 Mick

    cheers, gryff
    Last edited by Peter Griffith aka gryff; 10-28-2014, 08:57 PM.

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  • mickreed
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    Originally posted by Peter Griffith aka gryff View Post

    Wonders if this falls into "parlour games" ?

    cheers, gryff
    Good work Gryff,

    It's easy to see that 314.1C is so vanishing rare. I think that only 1 in 290,000 would have called it that.

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  • Peter Griffith aka gryff
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    Getting back to the topic of this thread:

    A different look at the 314.1c/315.1c issue as laid out by Chris.

    Left Mouse and Drag - rotates. You can also use the arrow keys.
    Scroll Wheel - zoom in and out
    The ? is clickable

    A DNA Mystery

    A computer from last few of years with decent video card.

    Windows 7 + : You can use IE11, Chrome, Firefox
    Windows XP: Chrome, Firefox
    Recent Mac OS: Chrome, Firefox

    Wonders if this falls into "parlour games" ?

    cheers, gryff
    Last edited by Peter Griffith aka gryff; 10-28-2014, 06:38 PM.

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  • RockySullivan
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    Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
    Not stupid, just uninformed. When someone buys a book they expect the person who wrote it knows what they're talking about and they're willing to take a lot on faith. As should be the case. The stupid ones are people like me who knew Cornwell was full of it, but I still bought her book and paid into her coffers.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott
    Hi tom uninformed is a better word. I always find myself skipping over the parts of ripper books where the author starts to try to prove their suspect. I've never read a ripper author whose looking at the bigger picture. They all focus on certain aspects to fit their "solution". That's why I find casebook so much more informative. But I believe torso & jack are one so that's not a very popular theory among the authors.

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  • mickreed
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    Why?

    I'm told I look better with it on.
    Well' don't blame me if the old Bill (or Jacquie Lambie) take pot-shots at you.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by mickreed View Post
    You should take that tin helmet off, GUT
    Why?

    I'm told I look better with it on.

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  • mickreed
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    Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
    I still bought her book and paid into her coffers.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott
    I bought it too, Tom. But only for 50 cents at the local Salvoes - may have been a dollar. Excellent door stop.

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  • mickreed
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    Hey What's up with Ned? was once told I look like him, but that was a loooooooong time ago, with more har and less weight.
    You should take that tin helmet off, GUT

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Originally posted by RockySullivan View Post
    I think the differences is many ripper authors are respected for their research and info they've uncovered while Cornwall & Edwards hardly research at all, but rather try to misrepresent science in a way stupid people will believe. There's nothing to respect about that.
    Not stupid, just uninformed. When someone buys a book they expect the person who wrote it knows what they're talking about and they're willing to take a lot on faith. As should be the case. The stupid ones are people like me who knew Cornwell was full of it, but I still bought her book and paid into her coffers.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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