The Apron - where is it today?

[lynn cates]

photos

Hello Neil. Thanks for that. Looks as if all the stones were turned over.

If they lasted that long, perhaps a collector has retained a photograph?

Cheers.
LC

[Malcolm X]

i expect there's MJK photos missing too, because if a few of the others were photographed in the morgue why not her !!!!!

[Monty]

No Maria,

The oldest stuff we saw, which was not in the Museum, was in relation to that era I mention.

Regarding the Blitz, in 1939 Policeman Arthur Cross was given use of the basement at Bishopsgate station as he was the designated photographer for the City. He was given the task to photograph the bomb damage to City of London Police related buildings, this for assessment. So he wandered around the city snapping bomb damaged buildings.

We also located a copy of these photos in a cabinet and they are quite extraordinary. Especially when you consider what records and artifacts these building could have held...maybe the apron, who knows?

To understand the devistation, Googlewhack Arthur Cross and Fred Tibbs. Its then you will realise why a manky old arpon piece was not at the top of their agenda.

Monty

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Monty

Many thanks for your informed input on what you found in the City of London Police archives. My own sense is that the apron piece was lost long ago, or else just simply discarded.

Best regards

Chris

[FlightyGman]

No Maria,

The oldest stuff we saw, which was not in the Museum, was in relation to that era I mention.

Regarding the Blitz, in 1939 Policeman Arthur Cross was given use of the basement at Bishopsgate station as he was the designated photographer for the City. He was given the task to photograph the bomb damage to City of London Police related buildings, this for assessment. So he wandered around the city snapping bomb damaged buildings.

We also located a copy of these photos in a cabinet and they are quite extraordinary. Especially when you consider what records and artifacts these building could have held...maybe the apron, who knows?

To understand the devistation, Googlewhack Arthur Cross and Fred Tibbs. Its then you will realise why a manky old arpon piece was not at the top of their agenda.

Monty

No and fair enough - enough work to keep them occupied for a good while! Great pics.

[Bridewell]

I suspect that a hard-nosed pragmatic decision was made, at some point, to simply throw the piece of apron away. Then, as now, there will have been pressure to free up space in overcrowded storage facilities. I knew a superintendent in the 1980's who was asking questions if "Property Other Than Found" was still in his store a month after it was first brought in - an extreme example perhaps.

Having said that, the police service has always held that the easiest way to land in the sh-t is over property - a point hammered home to new recruits in the 1970's & 1980's certainly. I would be surprised if a documentary record wasn't made of its disposal and the reason for it. Maybe that will turn up, even if the item itself fails to materialise.

Yours aye, Bridewell.

[Wickerman]

Jon,

It's not like they could tie it to anyone....

That depends on who was arrested and under what circumstances, doesn't it?

Don.

Does it, can you give me an example?

Thanks, Jon S.

[mariab]

No Maria,
The oldest stuff we saw, which was not in the Museum, was in relation to that era I mention.
Regarding the Blitz, in 1939 Policeman Arthur Cross was given use of the basement at Bishopsgate station as he was the designated photographer for the City. He was given the task to photograph the bomb damage to City of London Police related buildings, this for assessment. So he wandered around the city snapping bomb damaged buildings.We also located a copy of these photos in a cabinet and they are quite extraordinary. Especially when you consider what records and artifacts these building could have held...maybe the apron, who knows?

Thank you so much for answering, Monty, your research sounds fascinating.
By the by, I'm back into reading up on the WVC, now that I've finished (for the time being) looking for Schwartz in the “AF“ and have possibly located him. (If it's not simply a Yiddish synonym. The translation will show).