Cutting position?

[Fisherman]

Thatīs a good one, Greg - but it does not, as far as I can remember, concern itself with the issue of how the killer did his work, from what angles he cut and such, does it? Correct me if Iīm wrong - itīs been some years since I read this piece!

The best,
Fisherman

[lynn cates]

post it

Hello Christer.

"What makes you think I have not tried that already...?"

Knowing your good self, and given your propensities regarding reconstructions, I find that highly likely. But you haven't posted it yet. That's what is needed.

If you look at Casebook Examiner issue #2, there is much of use for such a sketch.

Cheers.
LC

[GregBaron]

Sketches only...

Thatīs a good one, Greg - but it does not, as far as I can remember, concern itself with the issue of how the killer did his work, from what angles he cut and such, does it? Correct me if Iīm wrong - itīs been some years since I read this piece!

Yes Fisherman I think you're right there....little discussion of the actual work done.......but has several good sketches that might give an idea of alcove size and body position...

I agree with Lynn also, any sketches out there would be helpful....

Greg

[Errata]

Well, it would seem more likely that the blood spatter did not come from a throat cut. It is certainly unlikely that it came from an arterial spurt. Given the depth and severity of the cut, it's unlikely blood jetted out more than an inch from her neck, which isn't nearly enough to hit the wall. Also since the front of her dress was clean, it's unlikely he cut her throat in any position other than her already lying flat on the ground. So that sort of leaves us with a cast off, which could have come from any point in the attack.

The other thing is, her head may not have been in the recess when he attacked her. The way her legs were positioned is unnatural. If her legs had been straight and splayed out as would have been natural, and he pushed them up into the position in which she was found, he could have ended up pushing her body (somewhat like a wheelbarrow) so that her head ended up in the recess. Which also may account for the smears of blood by her head.

[Fisherman]

Errata:

Youīre the doc, right? If I have understood correctly, you practice in medicine?

"Given the depth and severity of the cut, it's unlikely blood jetted out more than an inch from her neck, which isn't nearly enough to hit the wall."

Okay - so a very deep and large hole in the neck, means that the "gun barrel" of the wound becomes too large to produce much of a spurt...? Is that correct?

That would certainly explain a thing or two about the Nichols case!

... but what I donīt see, is how a cast off from another injury could have produced the rather extensive splatter on the fence. And what other injury? And would that not require the throatcut to be something that arrived later in the process? If the throatcut came first, it would reasonably have lowered the blood pressure, yes?

Apparently, the ground under Chapman was mud - would that not have given away a push along the lines you are suggesting?

The best,
Fisherman