Tumblety may well be in "other" files. His comments about being followed may have been pitched by him to imply a ripper link. His surveillance if that is the right word could well have served more than one purpose. I'm not proposing that two departments assigned separate manpower but I suspect the detectives involved on the ground were debriefed more than once. Just my opinion.
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Tumblety is of interest in illustrating how late 19th century prejudices led the police to focus attention in almost absurd quarters - as we should know by now.
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If the client was gone [maybe without service given the medical report said no sign of congress] how long did he need for a blitz attack if he was waiting watching.
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Between the last witness sighting and the discovery of the body. Ten minutes minus the time taken to service her client. It was a tight time frame before the introduction of a third party. Now I feel it becomes impossible.
Snapper
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"Why did she have to "hook up" with anyone, why couldn't he simply have attacked after the client left?"
Just not enough time.
Snapper
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G'day Snapper
Originally posted by The Snapper View PostTumblety as the ripper is hard to swallow. I base my opinion on the very small time window for the Mitre Square murder. Eddowes would have had to discard her existing client who clearly wasn't over six feet tall and then immediately hook up with Tumblety. Who after killing her then exits in the direction of Whitechapel as evidenced by the section of discarded apron. Very unlikely I would say at least for that particular murder.
Snapper
But I agree Tumblety is an interesting study but, in my opinion, not as Jack.
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Tumblety as the ripper is hard to swallow. I base my opinion on the very small time window for the Mitre Square murder. Eddowes would have had to discard her existing client who clearly wasn't over six feet tall and then immediately hook up with Tumblety. Who after killing her then exits in the direction of Whitechapel as evidenced by the section of discarded apron. Very unlikely I would say at least for that particular murder.
Snapper
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Can anyone point me to research that establishes Tumblety's hatred of women? Many thanks for your help.
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Hi Jeff
Tripe or Tripes are basically foodstuffs prepared from the stomach or stomachs of farm animals (for example the first two or three stomachs in the case of cows)....Pig stomachs are another source. They have to be cleaned and treated before becoming fit to eat (hence Tripe Dressers)...
Historically one of the cheaper forms of nutrition (brains and trotters were other less than fashionable meals) I can assure you that, whilst tasty if prepared well, they do need accustomising to...first time I tried tripe (back in the 70s) I suffered next day!
Consumption of tripe is rare these days...not even sure if it's still legal
Sweetbreads (or throatbreads) are something else entirely - these I love...truly...they're bloody gorgeous floured and fried...but sadly I've not been able to get any locally now for nearly twenty years...
Cheers
Dave
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It would be interesting to closely read the Pall Mall Gazette for the whole period to see if there is any sort of tangential reference at all.
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And I am still curious that if Tumblety is definitely defined as having violated the laws on sexual behavior created in the wake of the "Modern Babylon" incident of 1885, did William T. Stead ever make a comment in the Pall Mall Gazette regarding the arrest, release, and escape of Doc T.?
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