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  • Tumblety 'cleared'?

    This has been found on the other site:



    It backs a theory that the reason police interest in Tumblety dwindled to nothing, and that he was something an embarrassment to be forgotten, was initially because they could not get him back, but mostly because he was seemingly 'cleared' of all the Ripper crimes by the Alice McKenzie murder -- assumed by police and press to be by the same maniac's hand.

    Not necessarily all police (doctors disagreed) but an element of this case lodged in Anderson's mind, eg. the broken pipe, which his fading memory later transferred across to the Kelly murder as that involved, to a very minor degree, a [non-broken] pipe as well.

    In his 1910 memoirs Anderson denies, in a footnote, that McKenzie was a Ripper victim, but that is arguably a later redaction. The even later Coles murder will be entirely obliterated from his memory, even though he appeared at the scene of the crime. It was so seriously taken to be the return of 'Jack' that Swanson and Macnaghten were there too.

    That Kelly was the final murder and that this was known to the police at the time is a redacted notion which, I argue, contaminated many policemen's memories, including Littlechild. He thinks that the murders stopped after Tumblety jumped his bail and vanished, perhaps a suicide.

    Limiting the 'Jack' murders to Kelly was Macnaghten's idea because he had no choice: he believed -- rightly or wrongly -- that the deceased Druitt was the fiend and so this embarrassing and inconvenient timing had to be adopted. For fifteen years, to the public, Macnaghten tried to shove the square peg into the round hole by claiming, through proxies, that the police knew that all subsequent murders were not and could not be by the one and only 'Jack'.

    This fooled some but by no means all. Reid knew it was bunkum, Abberline too, though fumblingly so, and William Le Queux, a professional fantasist/alarmist could spot a fellow phoney -- and did.

    This truncated 'autumn of terror' inadvertently resurrected Tumblety in Littlechild's mind. Did he not flee and ... the murders stopped?

    This may have been simply a coincidence; the police on the hunt for a middle-aged, affluent, semi-employed doctor who fled at the time that the real murderer -- to Mac -- a local barrister had imploded and taken his own life.

    Yet the police chief decided to use elements of this American suspect later.

    Hence the intertwining of these two suspects to the point where Littlechild thinks that 'Dr T' might have committed suicide and that is who 'Dr D' really is -- if Littlechild is being sincere about that detail and not just deferentially polite to Sims; to give him something as he shreds the famous, upper class, leftist writer's Ripper solution.

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    Re: the new, American press source showing Tumblety 'cleared' of the Whitechapel murders because there has been a new one in mid-1889.

    Arguably, the McKenzie murder was thought to be by 'Jack' by a number of significant officials, at the time, but minds were later changed by the timing of Druitt's suicide and the backdating of the incarceration -- and alleged death -- of 'Kosminski' (Anderson's idiosyncratic transposition of the details about the pipes found with two different victims shows, arguably, a residue of this earlier conviction)

    This later change in belief about Kelly also resurrected Tumblety as a Ripper suspect, at least for Littlechild.

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    • #3
      Hi Jonathan,

      Again, it's a case of you making a claim and evidence coming up conforming to the claim. I'm curious if the Coles murder further reinforced this.

      Sincerely,
      Mike
      The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
      http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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      • #4
        Hi mklhawley,

        I actually think that's a commendable & honest post by Jonathan, as a Druittist, because, if Alice McKenzie was a Ripper murder, then both Tumblety and Druitt would be in the clear. I tend to the view that AM may have been a JtR murder, with the killer stopping thereafter because he didn't get the same thrill as he did with MJK.

        Regards, Bridewell.
        I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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        • #5
          The wrong diagnosis?

          To Bridewell

          Well, why not. Why not Coles too?

          If Druitt and Tumblety were not 'Jack' then there is no reason to limit the Whitechapel murders to Kelly by the same hand.

          Serial killers tend not to confess to priests or family members, (police yes, but only after being nabbed) and then committing suicide because they fear the madhouse.

          ff they were wrong how did they get it so wrong?

          By 'they' I mean the Druitts, the priest, and the police chief?

          A possible hint is given in the 1899 Vicar tale.

          For there is no such thing as 'epileptic mania', just as today multiple personality disorder and recovered memory syndrome have been denounced and abandoned by doctors.

          'Epileptic mania' was thought to mean that you had to commit violent acts; that it was a ferocious compulsion, yet you could return to acting normally again until the next eruption.

          If Montie was so diagnosed, especially if it was unofficially -- and posthumously! -- then they may have confused a mentally ill man with delusions, who quite sincerely only talked about having committed these violent acts but of course was innocent. Had he not taken his own life -- a violent act which 'epileptic mania' covered -- then they would have discovered their error.

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