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    When newspapers began publishing their reviews of Andrew Cook's 2005 biography of Special Branch Superintendent William Melville, titled M: MI5's First Spymaster, some of those interested in the Whitechapel murders took notice. In these reviews, Melville was described variously as having "worked" the Jack the Ripper case, "involved in the pursuit" of Jack the Ripper, and, most eyebrow raising, as having "collared the man many believe to be Jack the Ripper". Collared? What could this possibly refer to?

    The Sunday Times
    October 24, 2004

    Francis Tumblety, a doctor from New York, had skipped bail on sex offence charges and Melville nabbed him while on port watch for the Special Branch in Le Havre.
    To Melville’s anger, the French authorities insisted on letting Tumblety go as Melville did not have the paperwork to make an arrest there. Tumblety escaped to America, and later lived in at least two cities where Ripper-style murders were committed.


    But what does Cook's biography of William Melville actually say? Was he really involved in the hunt for 'Jack the Ripper'? Did the future successor to John Littlechild really apprehend and detain Dr. Tumblety upon his flight to America?

    William Melville was one of the earliest officers assigned to Scotland Yard's Special Irish Branch and his chief post was at the French port of Le Havre, where he served for the better part of the 1880s. Much about his duties in France remain a mystery to this day, but it is likely that his role involved keeping watch over the port in order to stem the flow of the illegal international prostitution industry plaguing Europe and South America at this time. There are conflicting sources as to when Melville and his family returned to England, and if he was indeed still stationed in Le Havre during the Autumn of Terror. If he was in France in the later months of 1888, how much he was aware of the investigation into the Whitechapel murders occurring in London is unknown. Andrew Cook claims that Melville returned to London in December of 1888 and coordinated the security for the Shah of Persia's visit to that city, but the Shah did not visit London until the summer of 1889. Cook uses the primary sources that state that Melville leased property while other sources claim the date of 1887 as when Melville quit Le Havre. Cook says that Melville returned in December 1888 "attested to not only his lease to 51 Nursery Road, Brixton, but to Melville family records which state that his wife died of pneumonia three months after the families return to England to France".

    Chris Scott provides the following census information:

    1891 census:
    51 Nursery Road, Brixton
    Head: William Melville (Widower) aged 40 born Ireland - Inspector of police
    Children:
    Kate aged 8 born Lambeth
    William J aged 7 born Lambeth
    James B aged 5 born France (British Subject)
    Celia aged 4 born France (British Subject)
    Visitor:
    Amelia Foy aged 39 born Guernsey - Living on own means
    Lodgers:
    Alice Davey (Widow) aged 33 born St Lukes - Tie maker
    Harold Davey aged 5 born St Lukes

    Death of Kate Melville
    Name: Kate Melville
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
    Year of Registration: 1889
    Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Age at Death: 33
    District: Lambeth
    County: Greater London, London, Surrey
    Volume: 1d
    Page: 363

    Other primary source documents may exist that could specifically point to the exact date Melville left France and returned to England.


    In Andrew Cook's biography, there is a brief (five pages total) description of Tumblety's supposed involvement in the Whitechapel murders, his flight across the Chanel by ferry to Boulogne and on to Le Havre, where he, on November 24, boarded the steamship La Bretagne to take him to New York. It is in Le Havre, of course, where he could have encountered William Melville, but there is no evidence that Tumblety was ever pursued, detained or in any way interfered with on his journey back to the United States. Despite what the book reviewers stated of M: MI5's First Spymaster in 2005, it's author never really makes this claim.

    What Andrew Cook does in his book is speculate as to what could have occurred had the CID wished to have Tumblety detained in Le Havre, and in Cook's estimation, Tumblety would not have been prevented to leave on the La Bretagne. Cook's reasoning is that Melville, hindered by bureaucratic communication issues, would have been left "gritting his teeth" on the dock at Le Havre as Tumblety's boat steamed away had an official attempt been made to detain him. This is based entirely on the British governments failure to extradite Phoenix Park suspect John Walsh from France in the wake of those murders in 1882. No where does author Andrew Cook allege that Melville in fact was hindered in detaining Tumblety, only that he could have been.

    Cook does add a bit of information in an attempt to bolster his hypothesis that Melville could have detained Tumblety. He states on page 74 that "anecdotal accounts from within the family relate that he was indeed involved in the pursuit of the Ripper". A footnote to this sentence leads to a citation on page 264 which says "Melville's oldest son, William, gave a number of talks on Radio Station 2YA New Zealand, commencing 24 August 1937. Melville's involvement in the Ripper episode was one of his anecdotes".

    It is with this very specific citation of a New Zealand radio broadcast starring William Melville's son that Andrew Cook's attempt to link Melville with Tumblety's flight from Le Havre unravels.

    The Alexander Turnbull Library in Wellington, New Zealand keeps in its collection seemingly every issue of New Zealand's Radio Record, a weekly guide to radio broadcast stations and their programming across that country. On top of that very detailed publication, the Wellington Evening Post carried its own radio guide, which also exists on mircofilm at the Alexander Turnbull Library. A search of these two publications from 20 August 1937 through the week of 24 September 1937 found no program about William Melville, or featuring William Melville Jr, on Radio 2YA or any YA or ZB stations carried throughout New Zealand. A search of the same months for the years 1936, 1938 and 1939 again turned up no results for programming that could even come close to being the series of talks supposedly had by Melville's son, detailing his father's involvement in the pursuit of Jack the Ripper.

    In a communication with this author, after being confronted with the utter lack of evidence that this program took place on the date and station specified in his book, Andrew Cook admitted that there was "certainly no record" of the broadcast ever having occurred. Mr. Cook said that he relied solely on the living Melville family's insistence that these talks were given by their deceased ancestor, and on that specific date. Cook suggested to this author that the William Melville Jr. series of talks took place on a "regularly scheduled programme rather than being given a slot of [its] own".


    Lets have a look at the Radio Record for 24 August 1937 to see where in the time slot William Melville, Jr.'s series, according to Cook, could have been broadcasted.






    Programming began daily at 6:50am and ended at 11:00pm.

    6:50- Weather for aviators
    7:00- Cricket
    7:30- Breakfast session
    8:00- Cricket
    8:50- Breakfast session cont.
    9:00- Cricket
    9:30- Close down (dead air)
    10:00- Weather for aviators
    10:55- Work done by the pupils of the
    Education Department Correspondence School
    12:00- Lunch music
    1:00- Weather for aviators
    2:00- Classical hour
    3:00- Time signals/Weather for farmers
    4:00- Sports results
    5:00- Children's hour, conducted by Jumbo
    6:00- Dinner Music
    6:26- Royal Opera Orchestra
    6:45- H.M. Coldstream Guards Band
    7:00- News and reports
    7:30- Time Signals
    7:40- Recorded talk- Dr. Kendel "A Visitor Looks at Our Education"
    8:00- Chimes
    8:15- Operatic contest from Wellington's 1937 festival
    9:00- Weather. Station notices
    9:30- Essie Ackland (contralto) presents "Dido's Lament"
    9:19- Saint Saens Orchestra
    9:30- Reginald Morphew (baritone) Recital
    9:45- Oboe Recording (Leon Goosens)
    9:48- John McCormack (tenor)
    9:51- Saint Saens Orchestra "Danse Macabre"
    10:00- Music, mirth and melody
    11:00- Close down

    The only unspecified non-music, sport or weather programs are the 10 minute 'Breakfast sessions' on the either side of the 7:00am Cricket coverage and the 7:00pm News and reports segment. It is possible that Willaim Melville Junior's series of talks about his father's illustrious career as one of Great Britian's foremost Secret Agents filled one of these two time slots.

    Andrew Cook had never directly claimed that William Melville detained Francis Tumblety at the port at Le Havre, only to let the Whitechapel murderer go free for lack of paperwork. Tumblety himself never referenced any abuse or restriction of travel he may have suffered at the hands of British law enforcement while in France. And there is no evidence, outside of one man's descendants 70 years after the supposed date of broadcast, that William Melville Jr ever detailed on New Zealand radio his father's involvement in the hunt for 'Jack the Ripper'.

    But the press, for some reason or other, picked up on the sparse five pages of the book M: MI5's Frist Spymaster, and labeled Melville as the one who nabbed Jack.

    Citations:

    for the 1887 date of Melville's return from Le Havre
    Wars on Terror; The Responses to the Anarchist Violence of the 1890's. E. Thomas Wood, Pembroke College, University of Cambridge 2002

    Shah of Persia visit to London
    1 July 1889. The Times of London 'The Visit of the Shah'.

    Mary Cobeldick, Librarian at the Alexander Turnball Library Research Centre and researcher Duncan Bailey are responsible for aiding me in checking the New Zealand Radio Record over a four-year time span in search of William Melville Jr's broadcast. AP Wolf also provided information about press reports on the release of Andrew Cook's book and basically encouraged my research into this subject. Thanks to all.
    Last edited by jmenges; 12-11-2008, 09:37 PM.

  • #2
    'cuse the interruption JM, but didn't I show years ago that Melville was on a train with the Czar of Russia during the critical months of 1888?

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    • #3
      Czar in England

      Hi AP,

      I did look into this...

      In searching the Times Online, I found no evidence that the Czar of Russia visited England in December 1888 (tho I may have missed it), and in your post last January on jtrforums http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=3284&page=8 you said "Kingston also mentions Melvilles role in protecting the Czar when he visited England, which does seem to have been in December of 1888 after all." But you do not provide the source, and the scan you provided was not the section that mentioned this claim by Kingston.

      Any evidence you can post that the Czar indeed visited England in the later half of 1888, and that Melville was with him, would be appreciated.

      Thanks,

      JM

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      • #4
        Sorry JM, I thought Melville was on a train from Paris to Moscow via Berlin and back again in the summer of 1888, with the Czar... not London.

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        • #5
          No Problem,

          I guess that is possible, AP, but as you know the critical time is late November.

          Thanks,

          JM

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          • #6
            I'm rusty on it now, JM, but I do seem to remember it came down to a matter of a few days in November of 1888, and then I had worked it all out then, with rail times etc, and there was no way Melville could have been in Moscow, Berlin and the sea ports of France at the same time.
            Ah well, lost posts and all that.

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            • #7
              I like your angle on this one though. Cook wishes to place Melville in Le Havre in late November based on Melville's lease on the Brixton house being signed in December. Whether this lease is in the public record or another family-sourced item is rather unclear, since Cook said to me "We know that he returned to England in December 1888 as this is attested to not only by the lease to 51 Nursery Road, Brixton, but to Melville family records which state that his wife died of pneumonia three months after the family's return to England from France". Is the lease separate from 'Melville family records' or part of them? The wife's death is listed in a public record as within a 3 month span, no family records needed there. Cook's current (i.e. living) Melville family source does not seem the most reliable, given the NZ radio mystery. Nevertheless, assuming that Melville did return to England with his family in December, it still, as you say, does not place him with any certainty in Le Havre on 24 November.

              JM
              Last edited by jmenges; 12-12-2008, 01:29 AM.

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              • #8
                John,
                Inspector Melville"s speciality was the management of long term double agents or agents provocateurs such as Auguste Coulon [aka Good old Dynamite-he wrote to the Anarchist paper Commonweal under that name].Melville spoke French and Italian fluently.He had overall charge of numbers of entrapment plots during the 1890"s.I doubt he was much involved in stemming international prostitution........
                Norma

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                • #9
                  Can I just add, on a largely irrelevant note, that my name is not Duncan. Thanks for the credit tho, Jamesathon

                  Cheers,
                  Damon Bailey
                  Bailey
                  Wellington, New Zealand
                  hoodoo@xtra.co.nz
                  www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsephotographic/

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                  • #10
                    Sorry Damon, I knew that. Don't know what I was thinking...

                    Special super thanks to Damon Bailey for being in New Zealand and agreeing to meet up with Mary Cobeldick and going through these records. For me, a complete stranger (and part-time idiot).



                    Thanks,

                    JM

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                    • #11
                      No worries whatsoever, Mr Menges This I why I have long since abandoned Damon (aka Damien, Daniel, David, Derek, Simon, and more rarely, Duncan) and simply become "Bailey," which is very rarely mispronounced, tho frequently mis-spelled.

                      Cheers,
                      B.
                      Bailey
                      Wellington, New Zealand
                      hoodoo@xtra.co.nz
                      www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsephotographic/

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                      • #12
                        dear JM I am a student writing my last examination to get degree on Jack the Ripper, time ago I found on youtube a video made by History Chanel where it was considered throughly the theory that Jack the Ripper was the doctor T, that is means Francis Tumblety. I watched carefully the video and it seemed to me a very interesting and real theory, well after having watched the video I start to believe that him was the real Jacj the ripper.Your posted it seemed to me very interesting and I would like to put your good job on my research, but could you testify that you are really a detective and evrything you write can be consider as reliable source....hope you can help thanks

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                        • #13
                          looking for help.....

                          dear JM I am a student writing my last examination to get degree on Jack the Ripper, time ago I found on youtube a video made by History Chanel where it was considered throughly the theory that Jack the Ripper was the doctor T, that is means Francis Tumblety. I watched carefully the video and it seemed to me a very interesting and real theory, well after having watched the video I start to believe that him was the real Jacj the ripper.Your posted it seemed to me very interesting and I would like to put your good job on my research, but could you testify that you are really a detective and evrything you write can be consider as reliable source....hope you can help thanks
                          plus guys evryone out there who can have any news or comments for me pls let you free to reply to me
                          many thanks

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                          • #14
                            Hi guglielmina,

                            By asking if I am "really a detective" I assume you mean the title that appears under my username. This is a rank given to the number of posts a person has made on the boards, nothing more. I am not a detective. I'm just called one on the casebook.

                            As far as actually citing my message board post in a college paper, I would recommend against doing that. Unless your professor said that you use the Casebook message board section as a reliable source. Unfortunately, in some cases, the rule is that you never cite research that appears in this particular venue.

                            You can cite a podcast, you can cite the magazines, you can cite the dissertations, but citing posts on message boards are largely frowned upon by academia.

                            That being said, my research into the New Zealand Radio Record is legit.

                            Good luck,

                            JM

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                            • #15
                              The pages from the Radio Record, showing the schedule of 2YA New Zealand, that went missing from the original post.





                              JM

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