Following the evidence

[C. F. Leon]

So three people think that

1. A hospital is the same thing as a lunatic asylum. Or that ordinary hospitals are sometimes called lunatic asylums.

2. Bilking prostitutes with polished farthings is comparable to a man finding two sovereigns in the street.



I genuinely despair.

- Sorry Herlock, but I have to disagree with your first point, at least in part. I have come across several instances of "Grandpa's in the 'hospital'" being used as a euphemism for "the looney bin", especially in the Victorian and Edwardian eras- and at least once in my presence. Of course, it's usually being used as a cover-up, rather than actual confusion as to hospital/asylum definitions.

- Not knowing the difference between 'farthings' and 'sovereigns' keeps me from getting the comparison.

[Herlock Sholmes]

But Thompson wasn’t in a lunatic asylum he was in a hospital for a physical illness not a mental one so there was no need for euphemisms

[Herlock Sholmes]

There are other subjects that I’m interested in as I’m sure is the case with everyone. I’ve been interested in this case for getting on for 40 years and I really do think I’m getting close to the end. Every day I pretty much lose more and more interest..not just on the case itself but the approach. I’m really tired of constantly coming up against brick walls of nonsense; of having to explain over and over and over again why one plus one never makes nine. If we have strayed, and constantly keep straying so far from reason and reality then what’s the point? What’s the point of discussing a subject when the ground rules appear to have been changed to ‘anything can mean absolutely anything.’ Evidence or the lack of it doesn’t matter…just make something up and certain people have no problem with this. The case is full of things which are a matter of interpretation which provide ample scope for discussion and yet we keep finding people defending lies and distortions without feeling the need to stand up and say “no, I’m not accepting your deceitful, misleading approach.” Doesn’t the truth matter anymore? Let me give you an example:

Richard claims, as a fact (not as a ‘maybe’ or a ‘possible’ but as a fact) that Thompson was living within 100 yards of the murder sites. So anyone reading that would think “wow, that’s intriguing.” But guess what? It’s a lie. That’s not my opinion, or my interpretation, I’m just telling you a fact. It’s a lie. Richard is talking about the Providence Row refuge. The only record we have..and i do mean ONLY…of Thompson mentioning that place is when he said that he’d seen men queueing there. He never mentions staying there. EVER. Now, he may have done so at some point. So MIGHT any number of men. But we have ZERO evidence of Thompson ever staying there. I hope that I’m being clear here….ZERO EVIDENCE. And yet here we are, people on here don’t seem to mind that this guy is just making things up. It doesn’t seem to bother some people.

Well, sadly it bothers me….a lot.

So what’s the point?

[John Wheat]

There are other subjects that I’m interested in as I’m sure is the case with everyone. I’ve been interested in this case for getting on for 40 years and I really do think I’m getting close to the end. Every day I pretty much lose more and more interest..not just on the case itself but the approach. I’m really tired of constantly coming up against brick walls of nonsense; of having to explain over and over and over again why one plus one never makes nine. If we have strayed, and constantly keep straying so far from reason and reality then what’s the point? What’s the point of discussing a subject when the ground rules appear to have been changed to ‘anything can mean absolutely anything.’ Evidence or the lack of it doesn’t matter…just make something up and certain people have no problem with this. The case is full of things which are a matter of interpretation which provide ample scope for discussion and yet we keep finding people defending lies and distortions without feeling the need to stand up and say “no, I’m not accepting your deceitful, misleading approach.” Doesn’t the truth matter anymore? Let me give you an example:

Richard claims, as a fact (not as a ‘maybe’ or a ‘possible’ but as a fact) that Thompson was living within 100 yards of the murder sites. So anyone reading that would think “wow, that’s intriguing.” But guess what? It’s a lie. That’s not my opinion, or my interpretation, I’m just telling you a fact. It’s a lie. Richard is talking about the Providence Row refuge. The only record we have..and i do mean ONLY…of Thompson mentioning that place is when he said that he’d seen men queueing there. He never mentions staying there. EVER. Now, he may have done so at some point. So MIGHT any number of men. But we have ZERO evidence of Thompson ever staying there. I hope that I’m being clear here….ZERO EVIDENCE. And yet here we are, people on here don’t seem to mind that this guy is just making things up. It doesn’t seem to bother some people.

Well, sadly it bothers me….a lot.

So what’s the point?

I feel the same Herlock. It bothers me that the evidence just isn't there and that a lot of things are being made up. But of course Thompson could have been the Ripper because he had anatomical knowledge.